Hmmm, very interesting, Gigi. I wonder what sort of line count you could set it to. As for keystrokes, I find that control-tab does work, reasonably or unreasonably, and I like that method, because it puts me right into the conversation, and I can VO left and right and listen to the entire text of each message without interacting. If I use return, I have one message at a time, and if I use VO-J, I also have one message at a time and I have to stop interacting with each one. Just a point of personal preference, I guess.
Teresa "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi Guys. > I think this Mac newbee may have discovered something you experienced guys > might not have thought of because you experienced guys would be less likely > to mess around on the keyboard in desperation. I found that, although the tab > didn't work like it did before, I could go from message to message with it. > Also, I found that I could set how many lines I would hear in a preview. I > went to preferences, I think it was. This means that, if I wanted to, I could > get a quick review of the message before pressing VO J. I was glad to > discover that VO J worked and that return would also take you into the > message. I discovered all this by accident in my messing around on the > keyboard trying to get to where I wanted to go. > > Regards, > Gigi > > On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> All right. Given that, what would you recommend as being the fastest way to >> move through message threads? I find that when I'm focused on a message in >> the message window, and that message is part of a conversation, pressing >> return does not open all of the conversation. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >> >> Skype name: >> barefootedray >> >> Facebook: >> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >> >> >> >> On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >>> The problem with using the VO+J command, Alex, as far as I am concerned, is >>> that it, in many cases, causes you to automatically interact with the text >>> of the message; if this is all you wish to do then fine; but, if you merely >>> want to hear the contents of the message then quickly skim other messages in >>> the thread, you need to stop interacting with the current message no less >>> then twice. Too many unnecessary keystrokes in my and several others' >>> opinion. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall >>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:36 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2 >>> >>> Tab doesn't work for me either, but I thought I was too tired and was >>> doing something wrong. However, the vo-j keystroke mentioned a few >>> days ago works perfectly for me, and does not even read out that >>> maddening table/root cell information that tabbing would! >>> >>> On 10/13/11, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> Hi Guys. >>>> dI just found out by accident that return also works to get a message to >>>> read these days. I used to do that in Windows, so I got desperate and >>> tried >>>> it. It worked. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Gigi >>>> >>>> On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Brett C. wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've noticed that tab no longer works to move to the messages in a thread >>>>> as well. >>>>> >>>>> Brett C. >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I found this out accidentally, so I don't know if it's documented >>>>>> anywhere. If you're using the preview pane, and you want to navigate >>> from >>>>>> mailbox list to message list to message content, use control-tab. At >>>>>> least as far as I'm concerned, tab doesn't work anymore for that >>> purpose. >>>>>> I'm thinking this could have something to do with Mail using Webkit. >>> Just >>>>>> a guess, though. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTh, >>>>>> Teresa >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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