Hi guys.
I think it's a matter of learning some things which are different from what 
we're used to if we're switchers. For instance, it never occurred to me, until 
an Apple person told me, that headers were used in numbers for columns and 
headings automatically. When I finally figured this out, I discovered that, for 
instance, in Numbers if set up header rows and/or columns VoiceOver will say 
those things when you land on them. It is easier to set up than it is in 
Windows because all you have to do is go to Tables and tell it how many headers 
rows etc. you want. 

Now I know that some of you guys have put Windows on your Macs. That's the last 
thing I want to do. However, I am about to have to go in the other room and use 
the desktop that's under Vista because the old good Social Security 
Administration has, I think got pdf files on there for putting W2s for 
employees. Also, they basically told me yesterday their web site doesn't 
support Safari. I have been using it on the web site, but when I read the part 
about the pdf files for sending W2s for employees by printing and/or reviewing 
the pdf files, I figure that I better use Windows. I sure hope those things are 
accessible when I get there, but I have an awful feeling they are not. Federal 
web sites are usually better, but their fillable pdf files are not always 
accessible. I don't know about you guys, but sometimes this accessibility thing 
makes me tired. I'm probably going to need a reader. Yippee!! 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Jan 4, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Oh boy I agree.  I find the Mac way way faster in everything, and I'm dual 
> booting my MBP and the mac side is sstill way faster than windows.
> 
> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
> world!
> 
> Marlaina Lieberg
> 1guide...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
> lol,
> 
> I think your sighted friend is on drugs.  :).  I find the Mac to be just as 
> fas and more often than not faster when doing tasks than windows when a 
> screen reader is not involved.  Man, You know how long it takes iTunes to 
> open on windows sometimes? smh.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Chuck wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the information. I do plan to use my PC and the Mac Mini in
>> parallel until I get used to the Mac. I am familiar with voice over
>> and zoom on the iPhone and iPad and I'm hoping that they translate as
>> well to the Mac Mini.
>> 
>> I have a sighted friend who also says that the Mac is a little more
>> sluggish than the PC. I don't do any gaming, 90% of my computer uses
>> buying online, word processing, and web development
>> 
>> But having dealt with Zoom text for the last 15 years, I am totally
>> frustrated with the program. I have to reboot it about five times
>> every day in order to get the text smooting to work. And it no longer
>> works with Internet Explorer nine. I'm sure that when they do finally
>> fix it, they'll want another $150 for the update.
>> Chuck
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 6:22 pm, "Missy Hoppe" <melis...@fuse.net> wrote:
>>> Very well said. I've had my mac since may, and although I've recently 
>>> become far more fond of Itunes than my bank account is
>>> comfortable with, I just don't use it for daily tasks. I just can't get 
>>> comfortable with any of the word processing options,
>>> and since I've been using a PC for close to 25 years, I'm always going to 
>>> be more comfortable on a windows platform. One of
>>> my favorite activities, especially while I'm unemployed, is playing games, 
>>> and while I'm thrilled that the RS games client
>>> works on the mac, there aren't any other options. I'm still hoping for a 
>>> truly accessible mud client; if atlantis is
>>> accessible, I sure haven't figured out how to make it speak automatically.
>>> My other major task is writing/editing a story I've been working on for 
>>> several years now. I just can't get comfortable
>>> working on my files using the mac, so just keep using good old wordpad on 
>>> the PC.
>>> Since it cost me so much money, I have chosen to use the mac for things 
>>> that either don't work or I don't want to mess with
>>> on my PC: adium, skype, itunes, and a couple of other similar things that I 
>>> can't remember at the moment. I figure that the
>>> mac is a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong, and that's definitely 
>>> something I'll give Apple credit for; you can
>>> install the operating system without any sighted assistance, and with 
>>> carbon copy cloner and time machine, it's easy to
>>> restore your machine on the off chance that something catastrophic happens. 
>>> Another thing that I really love about the mac is
>>> Growl. It essensially reads things that happen in the system tray: changes 
>>> in dropbox files for example. That's 1 thing my PC
>>> can't do, or if it can, I don't know how to set it up, so the mac is really 
>>> awesome in that respect.
>>> With all that being said, however, while I certainly like my mac a lot more 
>>> than I did when I first bought it, to be
>>> perfectly honest, there's still a rather big part of me that regrets the 
>>> purchase. I eventually hope to get bootcamp and/or
>>> VM fusion up and running, but so far, that just hasn't happened.
>>> I hope this makes at least a little sense and that it helps you in your 
>>> decision. Sadly, I can't comment on the large print
>>> side of things, but I've become moderately comfortable with using 
>>> Voiceover. Good luck in whatever decision you make, and I
>>> hope this helps you out at least a little.
>>> Missy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:01 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Switching to a Mac from PC
>>> 
>>> I got a Mini after hearing nothing but great things about the Mac and 
>>> VoiceOver. I can honestly say that I regret the
>>> decision. I never understood editing, my system seemed sluggish compared to 
>>> NVDA with Windows, and web browsing is slow on
>>> the Mac when using vo. Also, a lot of what I do on the pc is audio gaming, 
>>> and not so much as a good, accessible version of
>>> Solitaire is available on the Mac, let alone shooting, strategy, or other 
>>> intensively audio games.
>>> I am still willing to admit that a good, long skype session with someone 
>>> who is an experienced Mac user may help me, but as
>>> of right now I almost never boot into Mac, using the Windows half of my 
>>> dual-booting mini almost exclusively. If you do
>>> switch, make sure to either set up bootcamp or a virtual machine so you can 
>>> run Windows, because I can pretty much promise
>>> that you will still be using Windows for a while after you start playing 
>>> with the mac. Sorry to be so negative, but that's my
>>> experience so far.
>>> 
>>> On 1/3/12, Red.Falcon <velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Chuck!
>>>> Although I do not use windows and never have!
>>>> I have seen posts about the zoom and one thing the Mac cannot do is
>>>> change colours!
>>>> So its black on white or vice vursor!
>>>> hth Colin
>>> 
>>>> On 4 Jan 2012, at 00:05, Chuck wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>> I'm seriously considering switching to a Mac Mini from PC.
>>>>> I intend to use both the zoom and voice over programs.
>>>>> I am currently using a PC with Windows 7 and zoom text as my
>>>>> magnification and reading software.
>>>>> I would like to hear from those of you who have made the switch.
>>>>> What pitfalls should I look for? Are there any trade-offs?
>>>>> In your opinion after making the switch which is the better system?
>>>>> Why?
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Chuck
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