I can answer your last question.  I don't I just save the files and deal with 
them that way.  Haven't had to much though.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

> Hi Ray. 
> I have used the site also for just SS benefits things Have you used  section 
> they call Business Online? It works ok, if you don't get yourself out of 
> Safari by accidentally pressing the tab key. I kept being thrown out and 
> having to get back in. Also, how do you handle pdf forms online? 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Ge,, I think you were not told the truth about the social security site not 
>> supporting Safari.  I had to use it just the other week and no issues at all.
>> 
>> A little cluttered but I got done what I needed to do.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys.
>>> I think it's a matter of learning some things which are different from what 
>>> we're used to if we're switchers. For instance, it never occurred to me, 
>>> until an Apple person told me, that headers were used in numbers for 
>>> columns and headings automatically. When I finally figured this out, I 
>>> discovered that, for instance, in Numbers if set up header rows and/or 
>>> columns VoiceOver will say those things when you land on them. It is easier 
>>> to set up than it is in Windows because all you have to do is go to Tables 
>>> and tell it how many headers rows etc. you want. 
>>> 
>>> Now I know that some of you guys have put Windows on your Macs. That's the 
>>> last thing I want to do. However, I am about to have to go in the other 
>>> room and use the desktop that's under Vista because the old good Social 
>>> Security Administration has, I think got pdf files on there for putting W2s 
>>> for employees. Also, they basically told me yesterday their web site 
>>> doesn't support Safari. I have been using it on the web site, but when I 
>>> read the part about the pdf files for sending W2s for employees by printing 
>>> and/or reviewing the pdf files, I figure that I better use Windows. I sure 
>>> hope those things are accessible when I get there, but I have an awful 
>>> feeling they are not. Federal web sites are usually better, but their 
>>> fillable pdf files are not always accessible. I don't know about you guys, 
>>> but sometimes this accessibility thing makes me tired. I'm probably going 
>>> to need a reader. Yippee!! 
>>> 
>>> Regards, 
>>> Gigi 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Oh boy I agree.  I find the Mac way way faster in everything, and I'm dual 
>>>> booting my MBP and the mac side is sstill way faster than windows.
>>>> 
>>>> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
>>>> world!
>>>> 
>>>> Marlaina Lieberg
>>>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> lol,
>>>> 
>>>> I think your sighted friend is on drugs.  :).  I find the Mac to be just 
>>>> as fas and more often than not faster when doing tasks than windows when a 
>>>> screen reader is not involved.  Man, You know how long it takes iTunes to 
>>>> open on windows sometimes? smh.
>>>> 
>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Chuck wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the information. I do plan to use my PC and the Mac Mini in
>>>>> parallel until I get used to the Mac. I am familiar with voice over
>>>>> and zoom on the iPhone and iPad and I'm hoping that they translate as
>>>>> well to the Mac Mini.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a sighted friend who also says that the Mac is a little more
>>>>> sluggish than the PC. I don't do any gaming, 90% of my computer uses
>>>>> buying online, word processing, and web development
>>>>> 
>>>>> But having dealt with Zoom text for the last 15 years, I am totally
>>>>> frustrated with the program. I have to reboot it about five times
>>>>> every day in order to get the text smooting to work. And it no longer
>>>>> works with Internet Explorer nine. I'm sure that when they do finally
>>>>> fix it, they'll want another $150 for the update.
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 3, 6:22 pm, "Missy Hoppe" <melis...@fuse.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Very well said. I've had my mac since may, and although I've recently 
>>>>>> become far more fond of Itunes than my bank account is
>>>>>> comfortable with, I just don't use it for daily tasks. I just can't get 
>>>>>> comfortable with any of the word processing options,
>>>>>> and since I've been using a PC for close to 25 years, I'm always going 
>>>>>> to be more comfortable on a windows platform. One of
>>>>>> my favorite activities, especially while I'm unemployed, is playing 
>>>>>> games, and while I'm thrilled that the RS games client
>>>>>> works on the mac, there aren't any other options. I'm still hoping for a 
>>>>>> truly accessible mud client; if atlantis is
>>>>>> accessible, I sure haven't figured out how to make it speak 
>>>>>> automatically.
>>>>>> My other major task is writing/editing a story I've been working on for 
>>>>>> several years now. I just can't get comfortable
>>>>>> working on my files using the mac, so just keep using good old wordpad 
>>>>>> on the PC.
>>>>>> Since it cost me so much money, I have chosen to use the mac for things 
>>>>>> that either don't work or I don't want to mess with
>>>>>> on my PC: adium, skype, itunes, and a couple of other similar things 
>>>>>> that I can't remember at the moment. I figure that the
>>>>>> mac is a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong, and that's 
>>>>>> definitely something I'll give Apple credit for; you can
>>>>>> install the operating system without any sighted assistance, and with 
>>>>>> carbon copy cloner and time machine, it's easy to
>>>>>> restore your machine on the off chance that something catastrophic 
>>>>>> happens. Another thing that I really love about the mac is
>>>>>> Growl. It essensially reads things that happen in the system tray: 
>>>>>> changes in dropbox files for example. That's 1 thing my PC
>>>>>> can't do, or if it can, I don't know how to set it up, so the mac is 
>>>>>> really awesome in that respect.
>>>>>> With all that being said, however, while I certainly like my mac a lot 
>>>>>> more than I did when I first bought it, to be
>>>>>> perfectly honest, there's still a rather big part of me that regrets the 
>>>>>> purchase. I eventually hope to get bootcamp and/or
>>>>>> VM fusion up and running, but so far, that just hasn't happened.
>>>>>> I hope this makes at least a little sense and that it helps you in your 
>>>>>> decision. Sadly, I can't comment on the large print
>>>>>> side of things, but I've become moderately comfortable with using 
>>>>>> Voiceover. Good luck in whatever decision you make, and I
>>>>>> hope this helps you out at least a little.
>>>>>> Missy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:01 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Switching to a Mac from PC
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I got a Mini after hearing nothing but great things about the Mac and 
>>>>>> VoiceOver. I can honestly say that I regret the
>>>>>> decision. I never understood editing, my system seemed sluggish compared 
>>>>>> to NVDA with Windows, and web browsing is slow on
>>>>>> the Mac when using vo. Also, a lot of what I do on the pc is audio 
>>>>>> gaming, and not so much as a good, accessible version of
>>>>>> Solitaire is available on the Mac, let alone shooting, strategy, or 
>>>>>> other intensively audio games.
>>>>>> I am still willing to admit that a good, long skype session with someone 
>>>>>> who is an experienced Mac user may help me, but as
>>>>>> of right now I almost never boot into Mac, using the Windows half of my 
>>>>>> dual-booting mini almost exclusively. If you do
>>>>>> switch, make sure to either set up bootcamp or a virtual machine so you 
>>>>>> can run Windows, because I can pretty much promise
>>>>>> that you will still be using Windows for a while after you start playing 
>>>>>> with the mac. Sorry to be so negative, but that's my
>>>>>> experience so far.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/3/12, Red.Falcon <velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Chuck!
>>>>>>> Although I do not use windows and never have!
>>>>>>> I have seen posts about the zoom and one thing the Mac cannot do is
>>>>>>> change colours!
>>>>>>> So its black on white or vice vursor!
>>>>>>> hth Colin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 4 Jan 2012, at 00:05, Chuck wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>> I'm seriously considering switching to a Mac Mini from PC.
>>>>>>>> I intend to use both the zoom and voice over programs.
>>>>>>>> I am currently using a PC with Windows 7 and zoom text as my
>>>>>>>> magnification and reading software.
>>>>>>>> I would like to hear from those of you who have made the switch.
>>>>>>>> What pitfalls should I look for? Are there any trade-offs?
>>>>>>>> In your opinion after making the switch which is the better system?
>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> Chuck
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