Hi Ricardo,

Okay, that did it.  I thought I had interacted with the messages table, but 
apparently not.  Thanks.

Les
On Mar 28, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> you need to interact with the messages table before doing the command to get 
> to the top of the table.  About Voiceover not talking at start up, I don't 
> think there is a sure fire way to get rid of that.  At least, not away that I 
> know of.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> This is my first experience with Lion.  I'm using Mail and like the way 
>> messages are broken into conversation by default.  Sometimes, I wind up at 
>> the bottom of the message list and cannot get back to the top of the list.  
>> I thought the keystroke to accomplish this was VO Shift Home and End, but 
>> they are not working for me.  How do I go to the top and bottom of the 
>> message list.  Also, I still have to bring focus to the Finder to get VO to 
>> talk upon a restart or clean start after shutdown.  On occasion, VO does 
>> talk automatically, but usually, that does not occur.  Does the Finder need 
>> to be configured in any way for VO to talk automatically without 
>> intervention from me?  I also need to bring focus to the Finder when coming 
>> out of hibernation mode.  Is this normal in Lion?  Thanks for the assist.
>> 
>> Les
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