Using this method, when you first Interact with the "Message Header Text" area, navigating with VO-right, it should read the word "From", then the sender's name, then it will move to the next line and read the word "Subject" and if you continued, it would read the actual subject then move onto the the next line to read the Date info. Now, if you navigate left with VO-left, the first thing that it will read is the last thing it said when going right, then it will move back through each item.
You need to think of Interacting with as a method of drilling into the the body to get more and more detailed info. This process makes things quicker to navigate overall but can confuse you if you're not understanding it or familiar with the concept. For example, in the case of Mail, if you were just navigating around the Mail window, you can simply hear about the layout of all the elements within the Mail window. When you Interact with the "Message Content" area, you'll get two items, the "Sort" menu item and the "Message Table". You need to Interact with that Table in order to learn about all the messages that reside within. Then you can navigate through the messages with arrow keys or with VO-arrow keys. When you get to the message you wish to read in full, press return or VO-j if you prefer that method. Now, the message will be open and VO will read it in full. This is the point where you can Interact with the Header info inorder to dig deeper into its details. Hopefully this clears up some layout and logistics for you. Later... On 2012-04-18, at 5:26 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > When I go to the subject line via that method, is it supposed to go word for > word through the date to get to the subject line? > > Jenny > On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:05 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > >> Jennifer, >> >> I believe that you missing one Interaction step. >> >> • If you VO-right and VO reads "Hide", then go left to the Header area again. >> • Interact with that Header area and VO-right past the sender's name to the >> Subject. >> • Then VO-left back to when you hear the sender's name again. >> • At this point, press VO-shift-m to bring up the Contextual menu. >> >> What I believe is happening is that you may be misunderstanding the Header >> areas. If VO reads "Message Header Group", then know that you're >> Interacting with a "Group", therefore you may need to Interact with an >> object once again in order to get to the proper level. In this case, the >> second Interaction will take you to the "Message Header Text", and therefore >> you'll know that you're within the correct area for the steps outlined above. >> >> Hope this helps to explain and to save your computer from hurling through >> the air. >> >> Later... >> >> On 2012-04-17, at 6:54 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: >> >>> Ah Jennifer I hear the sound of screaming as I write this reply. >>> Don't give up. I've noticed that the way you are trying to reply doesn't >>> always work for me either. It works for me if I go over to the subject >>> then back again, then do vo-shift-m. Then I get the address, copy and >>> whatever else is on that menu. >>> It is definitely frustrating but once you find that exact thing you have to >>> do to make it work for you it will go smoothly. >>> I'd try going over to the subject once you've interacted then back to the >>> name you want. I don't know if its a focus issue. Have you tried routing >>> the mouse to the name you want with vo-command-f5? Just a thought. >>> Hope this helps. >>> Jim >>> P.S. gargle some lemon water for that throat after the screaming is done. >>> >>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >>> >>>> OK, I am trying, again, to reply to one person, however, when I navigate >>>> to message headers then interact with it which gives me the person's name >>>> then VO right arrow to what is hide, then VO left arrow to the from field >>>> again, and then do VO shift M as in Mary. >>>> >>>> this idiotic computer won't give me the menu to reply to sender. It won't >>>> give me a menu at all. >>>> >>>> there are things that I wouldn't change about this Mac. But right now. I >>>> could smash it into a million peaces. >>>> >>>> What on earth am I missing. >>>> >>>> Jenny >>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>> >>>>> To me, most of the navigation is fairly self-explanatory. You might try >>>>> some more specific questions that might make it easier to get help. Is >>>>> there a particular aspect of navigation that you have trouble with? >>>>> >>>>> HTH, >>>>> Teresa >>>>> >>>>> "Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily? >>>>>> That's the one I used on windows. >>>>>> I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook. >>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot >>>>>>> of folks use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte >>>>>>> Saga >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Theresa, >>>>>>>> Thanks so much. It worked like a charm. >>>>>>>> Now, for another harder question. >>>>>>>> Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari. >>>>>>>> Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, Stacey, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow >>>>>>>>> keys. Noncontiguous items are a little tricky. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you >>>>>>>>> won't move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press >>>>>>>>> VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by pressing >>>>>>>>> VO-f6. 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