Hi Steve,

You can tell Apple mail to use the gmail trash mailbox instead of its trash 
mailbox. Here is a link to a TidBits article which will show you how to 
configure apple mail to work with gmail's imap implementation. Gmail has 
changed some since the article was written but you should be able to figure it 
out.
http://tidbits.com/article/10253

Robert Carter
On Apr 28, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:

> When I went into gmail settings, I could not find anything to enable 
> immediate deletion of messages.  I recall some time ago when there was an 
> option in Google Labs supporting an option to make gmail's IMAP emulation 
> work like normal IMAP servers but I haven't heard anything more on this since 
> then.
> 
> In the mean time, the messages I delete with the delete key are now placing 
> messages into a folder called Deleted messages.  I guess I will have to go 
> this route for now and use Mutt email client to go in and move them all over 
> to [Gmail]/Trash from time to time.  Or just go back to moving them to Trash 
> manually each time I wish to delete stuff.  Frankly, the the delete function 
> in Apple Mail for Lion is not doing the job the way I want it to.  It might 
> work well for POP or standard IMAP but not for gmail IMAP.
> 
> On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:00 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Hello Caitlyn et al, 
>> 
>> I read your message very carefully.  
>> 
>> Currently, I have several G Mail iMap accounts that I access with Apple
>> Mail.  I have no problems at all in deleting messages from any of them; I
>> have re-installed Lion several times since its release without having ever
>> experienced the problem you and others are currently reporting.  
>> 
>> When I wish to delete a message from either a conversation or the delete the
>> entire thread, in Standard view, I simply press the BackSpace key on the
>> keyboard.
>> 
>> Now, before exiting Mail, I use the key combo Command+Shift+Backspace in
>> order to empty the messages currently marked for deletion.  I answer yes, in
>> the confirmation Dialog box and they are permanently deleted.  
>> 
>> Now you may be saying, "Yes, Mark, I do this as well yet it does not work."
>> To which I will reply,  I understand.  
>> 
>> The problem is that there is a setting that must be configured from within
>> your G Mail account, itself, on the web to enable the client to have access
>> in order to permanently delete the mail.
>> 
>> It's been a while since I set this up but, go to your G Mail web account.
>> Somewhere in the Options, you will see something that reads like "Delete
>> Messages Immediately".  This will be unchecked.  You must place a checkmark
>> in this option.  Then, if all goes well and "the water don't rise," as the
>> saying goes (smile) you should be in business.
>> 
>> While you're in that area of your G Mail account, review all of the message
>> options in case I am, most likely, forgetting something else.  
>> 
>> One more thing, I have my G Mail account setup so that, when using either
>> Apple Mail or Microsoft Outlook, I can quickly and easily undelete any
>> message marked for deletion (before the purge), by using key-combo Command+Z
>> on the Mac or Control+Z in Windows 7.  If you would like to know how to
>> configure this for your G Mail account, check out episode 70 of the Candle
>> Shore podcast.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:08 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: Caitlyn Furness
>> Subject: mail weirdness
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I hope somebody has some suggestions about my mail problem.
>> 
>> After a reinstall of Lion a couple weeks ago, I of course had to reinput my
>> mail account.  I am using my gmail account.  Now,, mail isn't deleting my
>> messages after I read them.  The next time I reopen mail, the same messages
>> are back again!
>> 
>> In mail preferences, I have it set to delete the trash when quitting mail,
>> and to not leave things on the server.
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong?
>> 
>> Before I had to reinstall Lion, my gamil account didn't act like this!
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Caitlyn
>> 
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