Yeah, and like we don't ha8e any annoyances with those current others for Windows (not mentioning any, but it's not necessay.)
Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Jun 25, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Hi. > Adding to what Ray said, It doesn't seem really that necessary for there to > be a 3rd party screen reading option for the Mac. Something like that will > probably cost $10000 or something else ridiculous and there will probably be > an SMA every version or so for another $1000. > It seems like there's a lot of improvements to VO coming down the pipeline in > Mountain Lion. Maybe they will fix some of the minor annoyances with > VoiceOver. > > > On 2012-06-25, at 8:42 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> Couldn't be more wrong. Why you want to make the Mac more like clunky >> crashy windows? It's not up to the screen reader to make things more >> accessible with more and more scripts which you have to keep up with; >> rather, that's up to the app developers. That's how it is in the Mac world. >> FS make a Mac screen reader? Are you seriously kidding me? No way it >> ain't gonna happen. >> >> GWMicro neither. They already have enough on their plate worying about >> windows type stuff. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >> >> Skype name: >> barefootedray >> >> On Jun 25, 2012, at 7:08 AM, William Windels wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> After working for more than 3 years with the mac , it's my personal >>> opinionthat more basic programs are accessible on windows then on the mac >>> platform. >>> >>> I find it more stable to work on the mac because of the integration of the >>> screenreader voiceover with the osx. >>> The fact that the hardware is also adapted for us by the trackpad and the >>> function-keys with the spoken values. >>> And of course the flexible way we can install , manage the system with >>> voiceover support everywhere. >>> >>> However, we can't e.g. configure dropbox with voiceover while this is >>> possible on windows, office programs like microsoft office and also iWork's >>> aren't fully accessible with lay-out tasks, in my opinion there are several >>> usability issues with the browsers on the mac, some ellements of the os , >>> like >>> Tables, on websites and on numbers and pages, are very difficult to >>> navigate e.g. you can't search for edit-fields on websites while they are >>> in a table and in pages, you can't work with tables on a comfortable way. >>> the icon's on the status bar, can't be reached on a normal way with >>> voiceover... >>> >>> My conclusion: a paid screenreader for the mac that makes program's >>> accessible with scripts (like screen readers on windows do), should be very >>> welcome I think. >>> With this kind of optional screenreader, blind users should be able to use >>> all the equivalents on the mac of their windows favorites. Perhaps it >>> should push apple to make their screenreader better on a faster speed. >>> >>> Why such screenreader doesn't exist yet? >>> I see 2 reasons for this: >>> 1. Apple should not be happy with this and the screenreader of apple should >>> have more possibilities to integrate with the os then the external >>> screenreader. >>> 2. Other communities don't see a reason to make a screenreader for the mac >>> while there is one built in. >>> If it should be the second reason, any people with accessibility >>> frustrations on the mac , should communicate this to other companies like >>> gw micro, freedom scientific, baum... >>> >>> Any opinions about this meanings should be very welcome. >>> kind regards, >>> William Windels >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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