Whole heartedly! agree.

Chris.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray Foret Jr 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:42 AM
  Subject: Re: is a paid screenreader for the mac a option?


  Couldn't be more wrong.  Why you want to make the Mac more like clunky crashy 
windows?  It's not up to the screen reader to make things more accessible with 
more and more scripts which you have to keep up with; rather, that's up to the 
app developers.  That's how it is in the Mac world.  FS make a Mac screen 
reader?  Are you seriously kidding me?  No way it ain't gonna happen.


  GWMicro neither.  They already have enough on their plate worying about 
windows type stuff.




  Sincerely,
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!


  Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!


  Skype name:
  barefootedray


  On Jun 25, 2012, at 7:08 AM, William Windels wrote:


    Hello,
    After working for more than 3 years with the mac , it's my personal 
opinionthat more basic programs are accessible on windows then on the mac 
platform.

    I find it more stable to work on the mac because of the integration of the 
screenreader voiceover with the osx.
    The fact that the hardware is also adapted for us by the trackpad and the 
function-keys with the spoken values.
    And of course the flexible way we can install , manage the system with 
voiceover support everywhere.

    However, we can't e.g. configure dropbox with voiceover while this is 
possible on windows, office programs like microsoft office and also iWork's 
aren't fully accessible with lay-out tasks, in my opinion there are several 
usability issues with the browsers on the mac, some ellements of the os , like 
    Tables, on websites and on numbers and pages, are very difficult to 
navigate e.g. you can't search for edit-fields on websites while they are in a 
table and in pages, you can't work with tables on a comfortable way.
    the icon's on the status bar, can't be reached on a normal way with 
voiceover...

    My conclusion: a paid screenreader for the mac that makes program's 
accessible with scripts (like screen readers on windows do), should be very 
welcome I think.
    With this kind of optional screenreader, blind users should be able to use 
all the equivalents on the mac of their windows favorites.  Perhaps it should 
push apple  to make their screenreader better on a faster speed.

    Why such screenreader doesn't exist yet?
    I see 2 reasons for this:
    1. Apple should not be happy with this and the screenreader of apple should 
have more possibilities to integrate with the os then the external screenreader.
    2. Other communities don't see a reason to make a screenreader for the mac 
while there is one built in.  
    If it should be the second reason, any people with accessibility 
frustrations on the mac , should communicate this to other companies like gw 
micro, freedom scientific, baum...

    Any opinions about this meanings should be very welcome.
    kind regards,
    William Windels

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