Hey.  How do I inable mouse keys in voiceover in sl does anyone remember.  I do 
not have a mouse of any kind on my machine so will have to use the mouse keys  
to do this.

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On Aug 13, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

> Hi,
> I can only give you steps in standard (not classic) view.
> 1. go to messages column. NOt the table inside the colun. 
> 2. vo right once to vertical splitter.
> 3. interact 
> 4. vo command f5 to bring mouse on it.
> 5. optional make sure mouse is there with vo f5
> 6. In lion this did not work but now in ml you can perform a mouse double 
> click by pressing vo shift space twice quickly.
> 7. preview column  should be gone. Verify by vo right after the vertical 
> splitter. If there follows a horizontal one you are in business.
> 
> hth,
> 
> Ioana
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> stores.
> 
> On Aug 13, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I would love steps. I'm not sure what happened to the other email that
>> had them, but I can't find it. Thanks.
>> 
>> On 8/13/12, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> Just a quick note to say that you can hide the preview pane also by using
>>> keyboard shortcuts. There have been posts to that effect on the list also.
>>> If anybody wants me to write steps just let me know.
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> 
>>> Ioana
>>> 
>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online
>>> stores.
>>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Harry,
>>>> 
>>>> I'll paste in here my instructions I posted in a different thread with the
>>>> steps you can use to get rid of the Preview Pane in Mountain Lion Mail.
>>>> 
>>>> 1.  Removing the Preview Pane in Classic layout:
>>>> 
>>>> • Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter that is to the right of the Messages
>>>> table.
>>>> • Press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if needed).  This will bring the mouse to the VO
>>>> cursor and announce where the mouse is and it should read "Horizontal
>>>> Splitter".
>>>> • Double-click on your Trackpad or alternatively, you can press near the
>>>> top of the Trackpad and drag to the bottom.  Make sure in this case that
>>>> you actually make the Trackpad button depress so that the drag action will
>>>> work.
>>>> 
>>>> 2.  Removing the Preview Pane for non-Classic layout:
>>>> 
>>>> • Navigate to the Vertical Splitter just to the right of the Messages
>>>> Column Group.
>>>> • Press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if necessary) to bring the mouse to the VO
>>>> cursor.  It will announce Vertical Splitter if it did what it was supposed
>>>> to do.
>>>> • Double-click on the Trackpad or alternatively, put your finger near the
>>>> left hand side of the Trackpad, then drag to the far right and release.
>>>> As in the first case, make sure that you depress the Trackpad button so
>>>> that the dragging process will occur.
>>>> 
>>>> Note that in the Classic layout, you are dealing with a Horizontal
>>>> Splitter and in the non-Classic layout, you are dealing with a Vertical
>>>> Splitter.  Each case requires a different dragging direction if you choose
>>>> that option.
>>>> 
>>>> There are a couple of ways of determining if it worked.  Firstly, you can
>>>> navigate around the Mail screen and if you don't hear anything about
>>>> "Message Content Area", life is good.
>>>> 
>>>> The second method is a little more complicated but tells you for sure.  In
>>>> Classic layout, navigate to the Horizontal Splitter to the right of the
>>>> "New Mailbox Action" menu.  You'll notice two Horizontal splitters, one
>>>> after the Messages Table and this one that I'm talking about.  Once you've
>>>> located this Horizontal Splitter, Interact with it and press VO-down.  Vo
>>>> will announce "Collapsed" which is what you want to hear.  In non-Classic
>>>> layout, navigate to the Vertical Splitter just to the right of the
>>>> Messages Column Group and Interact with it.  Press VO-right and VO will
>>>> announce "Collapsed" if the Preview pane is gone.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On 2012-08-01, at 1:23 AM, Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Anne,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wow -- I just now switched to classic view to see the differences, and it
>>>>> is unnerving.  I think I will keep standard view for now but will try and
>>>>> move the preview panel.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Harry
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 1, 2012, at 1:11 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Harry,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You need to get rid of the preview panel. That will stop Mail from
>>>>>> opening every message you land on. I'm unable to help you with how to do
>>>>>> this for two reasons: I haven't yet upgraded to Mountain Lion and I use
>>>>>> Classic View in Mail.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However, if you can find the horizontal splitter between the headers and
>>>>>> the body of the message, bring the mouse and double click using the
>>>>>> trackpad and it might just work.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2012, at 05:58, Harry Hogue wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi, guys,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've never changed my Mail preferences at all from when Mail came with
>>>>>>> my computer on Snow Leopard, and I haven't changed it for Mountain
>>>>>>> Lion, either.  When I move to a message or a message thread, the
>>>>>>> message I am focused on becomes read, so that VoiceOver will read
>>>>>>> something like, "Two message conversation collapsed Triangle, John
>>>>>>> Smith, The subject here, two conversation message collapsed disclosure
>>>>>>> triangle, Jane Doe, subject here."  I hope this isn't too confusing.
>>>>>>> it's kind of hard to explain.  Basically it marks the current message
>>>>>>> as read and repeats all of the thread information a second time,
>>>>>>> replacing the information with the next name in the thread.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Does this make sense?  I think this topic has been covered before, but
>>>>>>> I don't remember under what thread or what to search for.  Help is
>>>>>>> appreciated.  If someone has a link to the thread I can read it on
>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Harry
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