Thanks, this worked perfectly. A side effect is that focus no longer moves in the direction I arrow when I delete messages, which is a Mountain Lion feature I had come to enjoy very much. Oh well, I guess the mac is keeping me healthy - not letting me have my cake and eat it, too. Wow, that was a horrible joke. On Aug 13, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, > I can only give you steps in standard (not classic) view. > 1. go to messages column. NOt the table inside the colun. > 2. vo right once to vertical splitter. > 3. interact > 4. vo command f5 to bring mouse on it. > 5. optional make sure mouse is there with vo f5 > 6. In lion this did not work but now in ml you can perform a mouse double > click by pressing vo shift space twice quickly. > 7. preview column should be gone. Verify by vo right after the vertical > splitter. If there follows a horizontal one you are in business. > > hth, > > Ioana > Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online > stores. > > On Aug 13, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I would love steps. I'm not sure what happened to the other email that >> had them, but I can't find it. Thanks. >> >> On 8/13/12, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> Just a quick note to say that you can hide the preview pane also by using >>> keyboard shortcuts. There have been posts to that effect on the list also. >>> If anybody wants me to write steps just let me know. >>> >>> Take care, >>> >>> Ioana >>> >>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online >>> stores. >>> >>> On Aug 1, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Harry, >>>> >>>> I'll paste in here my instructions I posted in a different thread with the >>>> steps you can use to get rid of the Preview Pane in Mountain Lion Mail. >>>> >>>> 1. Removing the Preview Pane in Classic layout: >>>> >>>> • Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter that is to the right of the Messages >>>> table. >>>> • Press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if needed). This will bring the mouse to the VO >>>> cursor and announce where the mouse is and it should read "Horizontal >>>> Splitter". >>>> • Double-click on your Trackpad or alternatively, you can press near the >>>> top of the Trackpad and drag to the bottom. Make sure in this case that >>>> you actually make the Trackpad button depress so that the drag action will >>>> work. >>>> >>>> 2. Removing the Preview Pane for non-Classic layout: >>>> >>>> • Navigate to the Vertical Splitter just to the right of the Messages >>>> Column Group. >>>> • Press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if necessary) to bring the mouse to the VO >>>> cursor. It will announce Vertical Splitter if it did what it was supposed >>>> to do. >>>> • Double-click on the Trackpad or alternatively, put your finger near the >>>> left hand side of the Trackpad, then drag to the far right and release. >>>> As in the first case, make sure that you depress the Trackpad button so >>>> that the dragging process will occur. >>>> >>>> Note that in the Classic layout, you are dealing with a Horizontal >>>> Splitter and in the non-Classic layout, you are dealing with a Vertical >>>> Splitter. Each case requires a different dragging direction if you choose >>>> that option. >>>> >>>> There are a couple of ways of determining if it worked. Firstly, you can >>>> navigate around the Mail screen and if you don't hear anything about >>>> "Message Content Area", life is good. >>>> >>>> The second method is a little more complicated but tells you for sure. In >>>> Classic layout, navigate to the Horizontal Splitter to the right of the >>>> "New Mailbox Action" menu. You'll notice two Horizontal splitters, one >>>> after the Messages Table and this one that I'm talking about. Once you've >>>> located this Horizontal Splitter, Interact with it and press VO-down. Vo >>>> will announce "Collapsed" which is what you want to hear. In non-Classic >>>> layout, navigate to the Vertical Splitter just to the right of the >>>> Messages Column Group and Interact with it. Press VO-right and VO will >>>> announce "Collapsed" if the Preview pane is gone. >>>> >>>> HTH. >>>> >>>> Later... >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>> On 2012-08-01, at 1:23 AM, Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Anne, >>>>> >>>>> Wow -- I just now switched to classic view to see the differences, and it >>>>> is unnerving. I think I will keep standard view for now but will try and >>>>> move the preview panel. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Harry >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 1, 2012, at 1:11 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Harry, >>>>>> >>>>>> You need to get rid of the preview panel. That will stop Mail from >>>>>> opening every message you land on. I'm unable to help you with how to do >>>>>> this for two reasons: I haven't yet upgraded to Mountain Lion and I use >>>>>> Classic View in Mail. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, if you can find the horizontal splitter between the headers and >>>>>> the body of the message, bring the mouse and double click using the >>>>>> trackpad and it might just work. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Anne >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1 Aug 2012, at 05:58, Harry Hogue wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've never changed my Mail preferences at all from when Mail came with >>>>>>> my computer on Snow Leopard, and I haven't changed it for Mountain >>>>>>> Lion, either. When I move to a message or a message thread, the >>>>>>> message I am focused on becomes read, so that VoiceOver will read >>>>>>> something like, "Two message conversation collapsed Triangle, John >>>>>>> Smith, The subject here, two conversation message collapsed disclosure >>>>>>> triangle, Jane Doe, subject here." I hope this isn't too confusing. >>>>>>> it's kind of hard to explain. Basically it marks the current message >>>>>>> as read and repeats all of the thread information a second time, >>>>>>> replacing the information with the next name in the thread. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does this make sense? I think this topic has been covered before, but >>>>>>> I don't remember under what thread or what to search for. Help is >>>>>>> appreciated. If someone has a link to the thread I can read it on >>>>>>> there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Harry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. 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