i am considering getting a braille pen 12 portable display. i wanted to know 
has anyone ever  used it and if so did they use it with their mack?
tahnks a lot for your help i greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

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On 22/08/2012, at 0:02, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
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> 
> Badges in YoruFukurou [3 Updates]
> Mouse right click [8 Updates]
> quick ftp option in ml? [2 Updates]
> Deleting Bookmarks [2 Updates]
> Speakable Items staying on [2 Updates]
> viewing scanned text in Abyy Fine-Reader [1 Update]
> A better way to drag and drop [3 Updates]
> moveAddict app [was Re: can't ever cut items in Finder?] [4 Updates]
>  Badges in YoruFukurou
> Rachel Feinberg <walksi...@gmail.com> Aug 21 03:45PM -0700  
> 
> Turn off real-time streaming in preferences, under the general button. It's a 
> checkbox that says enable real-time streaming. 
>  
>  
> 
> Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> Aug 21 06:56PM -0700  
> 
> Thanks so much Rachel, just got it turned off. Will have to see if
> that gets rid of the busy messages. Only other question, if real time
> streaming is turned off how does your timeline refresh and do you need
> to hit a command like command R to refesh your timeline? Thanks again
>  
>  
> 
> Rachel Feinberg <walksi...@gmail.com> Aug 21 08:54PM -0700  
> 
> Hi Brian,
>  
> i'm very glad this worked for you! And you can set your timeline to refresh 
> in intervals of whatever you want. Usually a minute seems to work well 
> enough. If you want it to refresh more, then you can manually refresh all 
> tabs by pressing command+shift+R.
> Or just command+R to refresh the current tab.
>  
>  
> 
>  Mouse right click
> Mary Scott <bluespru...@comcast.net> Aug 21 06:16PM -0400  
> 
> Hi all, My sighted helpers are often asking me, "How do I right click with 
> VO?" Will somebody tell me the correct answer? Mel
>  
> 
> Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Aug 21 06:22PM -0400  
> 
> Most of the time, vo-shift-m does the trick. If you need to simulate
> an actual right click, or ctrl-click, you can do it. Unfortunately, I
> don't remember the exact keystroke for this, but key describer should
> help when you consider that vo-shift-space is a left click.
>  
>  
> -- 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> agent086b <agent0...@bigpond.com> Aug 22 08:31AM +1000  
> 
> Hi, probably I am wrong as I don't have my Mac yet.
> I think I read
>  
> vo-shift- and space twice quickly
> Max.
>  
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Mouse right click
> From: Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com>
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:22:37 -0400
>  
> 
> Rodney Haynie <rodney.hay...@gmail.com> Aug 21 08:11PM -0400  
> 
> VO does not have a keystroke assigned to Right Mouse Click.
> However, you can issue the command by VO H H, then type the word "right". 
> Pressing enter on the command in the help commands list will invoke the 
> command.
>  
> Otherwise, if you really need it, you can assign the command to one of your 
> commanders.
>  
> Wow, I don't think I ever wrote the word command so many times. :)
>  
> HTH. 
> Rodney
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Aug 21 07:15PM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> VO-shift-m brings up the Contextual menu for a given item. These wil be the 
> same options as a sighted user will see when they right-click. There are some 
> situations where the VO-shift-m will not bring up the Contextual menu but in 
> those limited cases, you can route the mouse to the VO cursor, VO-cmd-f5, 
> hold down the control key and press your Trackpad button.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
> Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> Aug 21 08:17PM -0500  
> 
> There is no voice over command for right clicking the mouse, however, 
> pressing vo shift M on an item should open the context menu for it, that's 
> also what right clicking the mouse does.
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Mary Scott wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> Aug 21 11:07PM -0400  
> 
> Hi,. 
>  
> What button are you talking about? I have a magic trackpad and do not have 
> any button to my knowledge.. 
>  
> Thanks,. 
>  
> Ioana 
>  
> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online 
> stores.
> Sent from my phone
>  
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Aug 21 09:31PM -0600  
> 
> The Magic Trackpad is just like a MacBook or MacBook Pro Trackpad. It just 
> gives you the same functionality with a Desktop unit. If you press down on a 
> MacBook Trackpad,you'll feel a sort of click which when fully depressed, is 
> the "mouse-down" action. Holding it down performs the dragging action. The 
> Magic Trackpad has exactly the same functionality. Pressing firmly down 
> anywhere on the Trackpad will cause the Magic Trackpad to give a click sort 
> of feel where you can distinguish between the "mouse-down" and regular 
> gesture modes. So, in effect, the entire Trackpad in both cases is a button.
>  
> Hope this clears things up for you.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
>  quick ftp option in ml?
> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Aug 21 06:04PM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> The MacOS has a basic FTP client built in that works fine for visiting FTP 
> sites and downloading from them. It doesn't, however, do writing to an FTP 
> site well. I use Transmit for this. It's not free but it works well for me. 
> There are other free options out there that others may be able to enlighten 
> you with.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
> Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> Aug 21 11:11PM -0400  
> 
> Hi,. 
>  
> For basic ftp access use the connect to server option in finder's go menu.. 
>  
> Best,. 
>  
> Ioana 
>  
> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online 
> stores.
> Sent from my phone
>  
>  
> 
>  Deleting Bookmarks
> tealgree...@gmail.com <tealgree...@gmail.com> Aug 21 04:39PM -0700  
> 
> OMG! Thank you Alex for translating. Appologies for the horrible previously 
> posted message. I could explain why the message did not come out properly, 
> but I will save everyone's time and sincerely appologize for the mistake.
>  
> As Alex have translated, I am hoping for some tips for deleting bookmarks in 
> Safari. Thank you. 
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
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> cb-dsacb-ds;b2tocb-dscb-ds;b2;c macvisionaries@googlegroups.com,
> Date: Tuesday, Aug 21, 2012 03:24:59 PM
> Subject: Re: 1delet+ 1bookm>ks 9 1saf>i8
>  
>  
> > — 
> > Have a great day,
> > Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
> @@@> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Aug 21 11:11PM -0400  
> 
> No problem, you just typed in grade 2 into a computer braille field...
> Many of us have done it.
>  
> As to erasing bookmarks, I'm not sure, but does vo-shift-m on the
> bookmark bring up a menu of options?
>  
>  
> -- 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
>  Speakable Items staying on
> Eric Caron <ecar...@comcast.net> Aug 21 10:43PM -0400  
> 
> Hi listers,
>  
> I've been playing with Speakable items a bit and find it is working well for 
> me over all. My major frustration is that if I don't use it for awhile I need 
> to go back to system preferences and turn it off and on again. then it works 
> fine for a time. Later it stops and again I need to turn it back on again.
>  
> Is anyone else having this problem? anyone found a way to keep it working? I 
> don't want it to be on listen continuously as it will then do unexpected 
> things. I do fine with the key word but then suddenly it stops working and 
> once I turn it off and on it works perfectly again. 
>  
> tips are greatly appreciated.
>  
> Eric Caron
>  
> 
> Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> Aug 21 11:02PM -0400  
> 
> Hi,. 
>  
> I would report this to apple feedback since others on this list, including 
> me, have experienced this.. 
>  
> Best,. 
>  
> Ioana 
>  
> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online 
> stores.
> Sent from my phone
>  
>  
> 
>  viewing scanned text in Abyy Fine-Reader
> Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> Aug 21 08:15PM -0500  
> 
> Hi Anne,
>  
> No, I was talking about the full version. But I think I've found a work 
> around. Thanks for responding.
> Best,
> Donna
>  
> 
>  A better way to drag and drop
> Bill Holton <bill32...@gmail.com> Aug 21 06:07PM -0400  
> 
> I have found something that works better than the standard VO comma and 
> period Drag-and-drop. commands
>  
> There are also commands you can sit to a keyboard trackpad shortcut call Mark 
> item for drag-and-drop and drop item after voice over cursor. For me, he seem 
> to work much better than the standard VO commands.
> I was able to move mailboxes around. Easily with these commandsHope this 
> helps someone.
> Bill
>  
> 
> Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> Aug 21 07:25PM -0400  
> 
> Would these keyboard commands for Trackpad work even though I'm using an iMac 
> and don't have a trackpad?
> Les
>  
> 
> Bill Holton <bill32...@gmail.com> Aug 21 08:58PM -0400  
> 
> Yes.
> They are both in the list of commands you can assign to the notepad or the 
> trackpad. If you have neither, try the video HH helping you and type in drag 
> and drop and you'll find these commands.
> Hope that helps
> Bill
>  
> 
>  moveAddict app [was Re: can't ever cut items in Finder?]
> Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> Aug 21 05:12PM -0500  
> 
> I would only like to add that it was possible to use command+Option+v to move 
> files even so far back as the final release of Snow Leopard. 
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>  
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>  
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>  
>  
> 
> Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> Aug 21 05:57PM -0500  
> 
> Ester, Will this work with SnowLeopard?
>  
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Esther wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Esther <mori...@mac.com> Aug 21 04:43PM -0700  
> 
> Hi Stacey,
> Yes, I bought this early on in Snow Leopard, but directly from the
> developer's web site, before it was sold at the Mac App Store. ray
> says that the "move" command works in the last version of Snow
> Leopard, so you could also try that out first. Copy selected files
> with Command-C, move to a new folder, then move them there with
> Command-Option-V.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Esther
>  
>  
> 
> Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> Aug 21 07:27PM -0500  
> 
> I just purchased Moveaddict and I love it.
> I'm running snowleopard.
>  
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 5:12 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
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