Hi,  I mostly use braille pen with IOS devices.  It's sheer smallness makes it 
less than ideal as a primary display for a computer.

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On 2012-08-22, at 12:52 AM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:

> 
> i am considering getting a braille pen 12 portable display. i wanted to know 
> has anyone ever  used it and if so did they use it with their mack?
> tahnks a lot for your help i greatly appreciate it.
> sincerely, chenelle
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 22/08/2012, at 0:02, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
>>   Today's Topic Summary
>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
>> 
>> Badges in YoruFukurou [3 Updates]
>> Mouse right click [8 Updates]
>> quick ftp option in ml? [2 Updates]
>> Deleting Bookmarks [2 Updates]
>> Speakable Items staying on [2 Updates]
>> viewing scanned text in Abyy Fine-Reader [1 Update]
>> A better way to drag and drop [3 Updates]
>> moveAddict app [was Re: can't ever cut items in Finder?] [4 Updates]
>>  Badges in YoruFukurou
>> Rachel Feinberg <walksi...@gmail.com> Aug 21 03:45PM -0700  
>> 
>> Turn off real-time streaming in preferences, under the general button. It's 
>> a checkbox that says enable real-time streaming. 
>>  
>>  
>> Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> Aug 21 06:56PM -0700  
>> 
>> Thanks so much Rachel, just got it turned off. Will have to see if
>> that gets rid of the busy messages. Only other question, if real time
>> streaming is turned off how does your timeline refresh and do you need
>> to hit a command like command R to refesh your timeline? Thanks again
>>  
>>  
>> Rachel Feinberg <walksi...@gmail.com> Aug 21 08:54PM -0700  
>> 
>> Hi Brian,
>>  
>> i'm very glad this worked for you! And you can set your timeline to refresh 
>> in intervals of whatever you want. Usually a minute seems to work well 
>> enough. If you want it to refresh more, then you can manually refresh all 
>> tabs by pressing command+shift+R.
>> Or just command+R to refresh the current tab.
>>  
>>  
>>  Mouse right click
>> Mary Scott <bluespru...@comcast.net> Aug 21 06:16PM -0400  
>> 
>> Hi all, My sighted helpers are often asking me, "How do I right click with 
>> VO?" Will somebody tell me the correct answer? Mel
>>  
>> Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Aug 21 06:22PM -0400  
>> 
>> Most of the time, vo-shift-m does the trick. If you need to simulate
>> an actual right click, or ctrl-click, you can do it. Unfortunately, I
>> don't remember the exact keystroke for this, but key describer should
>> help when you consider that vo-shift-space is a left click.
>>  
>>  
>> -- 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>  
>> agent086b <agent0...@bigpond.com> Aug 22 08:31AM +1000  
>> 
>> Hi, probably I am wrong as I don't have my Mac yet.
>> I think I read
>>  
>> vo-shift- and space twice quickly
>> Max.
>>  
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: Mouse right click
>> From: Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:22:37 -0400
>>  
>> Rodney Haynie <rodney.hay...@gmail.com> Aug 21 08:11PM -0400  
>> 
>> VO does not have a keystroke assigned to Right Mouse Click.
>> However, you can issue the command by VO H H, then type the word "right". 
>> Pressing enter on the command in the help commands list will invoke the 
>> command.
>>  
>> Otherwise, if you really need it, you can assign the command to one of your 
>> commanders.
>>  
>> Wow, I don't think I ever wrote the word command so many times. :)
>>  
>> HTH. 
>> Rodney
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Aug 21 07:15PM -0600  
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> VO-shift-m brings up the Contextual menu for a given item. These wil be the 
>> same options as a sighted user will see when they right-click. There are 
>> some situations where the VO-shift-m will not bring up the Contextual menu 
>> but in those limited cases, you can route the mouse to the VO cursor, 
>> VO-cmd-f5, hold down the control key and press your Trackpad button.
>>  
>> Later...
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>  
>>  
>> Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> Aug 21 08:17PM -0500  
>> 
>> There is no voice over command for right clicking the mouse, however, 
>> pressing vo shift M on an item should open the context menu for it, that's 
>> also what right clicking the mouse does.
>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Mary Scott wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> Aug 21 11:07PM -0400  
>> 
>> Hi,. 
>>  
>> What button are you talking about? I have a magic trackpad and do not have 
>> any button to my knowledge.. 
>>  
>> Thanks,. 
>>  
>> Ioana 
>>  
>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online 
>> stores.
>> Sent from my phone
>>  
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Aug 21 09:31PM -0600  
>> 
>> The Magic Trackpad is just like a MacBook or MacBook Pro Trackpad. It just 
>> gives you the same functionality with a Desktop unit. If you press down on a 
>> MacBook Trackpad,you'll feel a sort of click which when fully depressed, is 
>> the "mouse-down" action. Holding it down performs the dragging action. The 
>> Magic Trackpad has exactly the same functionality. Pressing firmly down 
>> anywhere on the Trackpad will cause the Magic Trackpad to give a click sort 
>> of feel where you can distinguish between the "mouse-down" and regular 
>> gesture modes. So, in effect, the entire Trackpad in both cases is a button.
>>  
>> Hope this clears things up for you.
>>  
>> Later...
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>  
>>  
>>  quick ftp option in ml?
>> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Aug 21 06:04PM -0600  
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> The MacOS has a basic FTP client built in that works fine for visiting FTP 
>> sites and downloading from them. It doesn't, however, do writing to an FTP 
>> site well. I use Transmit for this. It's not free but it works well for me. 
>> There are other free options out there that others may be able to enlighten 
>> you with.
>>  
>> Later...
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>  
>>  
>> Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> Aug 21 11:11PM -0400  
>> 
>> Hi,. 
>>  
>> For basic ftp access use the connect to server option in finder's go menu.. 
>>  
>> Best,. 
>>  
>> Ioana 
>>  
>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online 
>> stores.
>> Sent from my phone
>>  
>>  
>>  Deleting Bookmarks
>> tealgree...@gmail.com <tealgree...@gmail.com> Aug 21 04:39PM -0700  
>> 
>> OMG! Thank you Alex for translating. Appologies for the horrible previously 
>> posted message. I could explain why the message did not come out properly, 
>> but I will save everyone's time and sincerely appologize for the mistake.
>>  
>> As Alex have translated, I am hoping for some tips for deleting bookmarks in 
>> Safari. Thank you. 
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> cb-dsacb-ds;b2fcb-dscb-ds;b2;c cb-dsacb-ds;b2alex cb-dsacb-ds;b2hall 
>> <mehg...@gmail.com>
>> cb-dsacb-ds;b2tocb-dscb-ds;b2;c macvisionaries@googlegroups.com,
>> Date: Tuesday, Aug 21, 2012 03:24:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: 1delet+ 1bookm>ks 9 1saf>i8
>>  
>>  
>> > — 
>> > Have a great day,
>> > Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
>> @@@> mehg...@gmail.com
>>  
>> Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Aug 21 11:11PM -0400  
>> 
>> No problem, you just typed in grade 2 into a computer braille field...
>> Many of us have done it.
>>  
>> As to erasing bookmarks, I'm not sure, but does vo-shift-m on the
>> bookmark bring up a menu of options?
>>  
>>  
>> -- 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>  
>>  Speakable Items staying on
>> Eric Caron <ecar...@comcast.net> Aug 21 10:43PM -0400  
>> 
>> Hi listers,
>>  
>> I've been playing with Speakable items a bit and find it is working well for 
>> me over all.  My major frustration is that if I don't use it for awhile I 
>> need to go back to system preferences and turn it off and on again. then it 
>> works fine for a time. Later it stops and again I need to turn it back on 
>> again.
>>  
>> Is anyone else having this problem? anyone found a way to keep it working? I 
>> don't want it to be on listen continuously as it will then do unexpected 
>> things. I do fine with the key word but then suddenly it stops working and 
>> once I turn it off and on it works perfectly again. 
>>  
>> tips are greatly appreciated.
>>  
>> Eric Caron
>>  
>> Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> Aug 21 11:02PM -0400  
>> 
>> Hi,. 
>>  
>> I would report this to apple feedback since others on this list, including 
>> me, have experienced this.. 
>>  
>> Best,. 
>>  
>> Ioana 
>>  
>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online 
>> stores.
>> Sent from my phone
>>  
>>  
>>  viewing scanned text in Abyy Fine-Reader
>> Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> Aug 21 08:15PM -0500  
>> 
>> Hi Anne,
>>  
>> No, I was talking about the full version. But I think I've found a work 
>> around. Thanks for responding.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>>  
>>  A better way to drag and drop
>> Bill Holton <bill32...@gmail.com> Aug 21 06:07PM -0400  
>> 
>> I have found something that works better than the standard VO comma and 
>> period Drag-and-drop. commands
>>  
>> There are also commands you can sit to a keyboard trackpad shortcut call 
>> Mark item for drag-and-drop and drop item after voice over cursor. For me, 
>> he seem to work much better than the standard VO commands.
>> I was able to move mailboxes around. Easily with these commandsHope this 
>> helps someone.
>> Bill
>>  
>> Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> Aug 21 07:25PM -0400  
>> 
>> Would these keyboard commands for Trackpad work even though I'm using an 
>> iMac and don't have a trackpad?
>> Les
>>  
>> Bill Holton <bill32...@gmail.com> Aug 21 08:58PM -0400  
>> 
>> Yes.
>> They are both in the list of commands you can assign to the notepad or the 
>> trackpad. If you have neither, try the video HH helping you and type in drag 
>> and drop and you'll find these commands.
>> Hope that helps
>> Bill
>>  
>>  moveAddict app [was Re: can't ever cut items in Finder?]
>> Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> Aug 21 05:12PM -0500  
>> 
>> I would only like to add that it was possible to use command+Option+v to 
>> move files even so far back as the final release of Snow Leopard. 
>>  
>>  
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>  
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>  
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>>  
>>  
>> Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> Aug 21 05:57PM -0500  
>> 
>> Ester, Will this work with SnowLeopard?
>>  
>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Esther wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> Esther <mori...@mac.com> Aug 21 04:43PM -0700  
>> 
>> Hi Stacey,
>> Yes, I bought this early on in Snow Leopard, but directly from the
>> developer's web site, before it was sold at the Mac App Store. ray
>> says that the "move" command works in the last version of Snow
>> Leopard, so you could also try that out first. Copy selected files
>> with Command-C, move to a new folder, then move them there with
>> Command-Option-V.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>> Esther
>>  
>>  
>> Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> Aug 21 07:27PM -0500  
>> 
>> I just purchased Moveaddict and I love it.
>> I'm running snowleopard.
>>  
>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 5:12 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>  
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