Did you make sure the box that says allow VoiceOver to be controlled by apple scripts is checked in VoiceOver utility? If ti isn't, you'll have the delay
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hogue Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:19 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Delay Before Time and Date Spoken Using right-option-t Keys Hi, I changed the system voice, but I, at least, still have the delay. This is very interesting. Thanks for the suggestion. Harry On dic 11, 2012, at 11:32 a.m., Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: > No. Go to text to speech in system preferences. Voiceover can be set > to use a different voice itself. > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hogue > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:37 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Delay Before Time and Date Spoken Using right-option-t > Keys > > Interestingly. I have my system voice set to Fred, and I used Fred > for all other voices, so I'm not sure what would cause the delay. I > just went to check the system voice I have set, and the only thing I > see under VoiceOver Utility is an option for "Default Voice," which is > the closest thing I see to a system voice. Is this what you're referring to? > > Thanks. > > Harry > > On dic 11, 2012, at 11:17 a.m., Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> It will, it will just use the normal system voice, thus causing the delay. >> Trust me, I've tried it. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hogue >> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:21 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Delay Before Time and Date Spoken Using right-option-t >> Keys >> >> Hello, >> >> I have that checkbox checke in my VO preferences. I don't think the >> script would function at all, otherwise. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Harry >> >> On dic 11, 2012, at 11:13 a.m., Red.Falcon >> <velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi guys! >>> I have heard of sometimes check boxes can become unchecked so I was >> wondering if those of you having this delay has the [use allow VO to >> be controlled with apple scripts ] has been unchecked somehow! >>> I have no delay here using Mountain Lion! >>> Might be worth a check! >>> >>> hth Colin >>> >>> On 11 Dec 2012, at 16:52, Scott Berry <sb356...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello there, >>>> >>>> What type of scripts are these the plain Apple script language? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/11/2012 08:28 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>> Hi, guys, >>>>> >>>>> Yes, I use the Alex voice for everything, so I don't think that's >>>>> a >> factor in my case. However, the question of more responsiveness after >> one press is definitely a factor. I only notice the delay the first >> time I press the key combo in a long time. Subsequent presses are >> much > more responsive. >>>>> >>>>> I will report this to Apple. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Teresa >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On the other hand, there are different fingers. >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 11, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I would not hesitate to ask Apple for any fix you can think of, >>>>>> big or >> small. They can prioritize things, but they will never know to fix a >> problem if they don't know it exists. As to clicks, you can mute vo >> through the help menus (vo-h) or by setting up a keyboard or trackpad > commander to do it. >>>>>> On Dec 11, 2012, at 7:23 AM, Jürgen Fleger >>>>>> <apple-engl...@fleger.net> >> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Interesting. Here's usually a delay of 3 seconds maximum. I just >>>>>>> tried >> it even without any delay. Might be because it was not the first time > today. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Topic delay: I experience an annoying delay on web pages after >> pressing VO + a to read from the cursor. For example to read an >> article on Wikipedia is no fun. It takes ages. For me there's to much >> delay after full stops and commas and when a link is announced. Also >> the info how many objects a header on a web page has takes to much >> time for me. At least on my german OS VO announces the objects in a >> header followed by a very long pause. Yes, I know of the Reader. But >> it's also annoying to hear again and again "clickable" at the end of >> a > line. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But honestly: I don't dare to ask Apple for such small things as >>>>>>> long >> as VoiceOver contains the real big bugs as pdf or tables in text >> documents or the VoiceOver calendar issue in iOS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All the best >>>>>>> Jürgen >>>>>>> Am 11.12.2012 um 08:20 schrieb Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Alex and Teresa, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have found this same issue, and have this theory as well. I >>>>>>>> do not >> often use the keyboard commander VoiceOVer scripts for this reason, >> such as >> opt+B for battery, opt+M for Mail, etc. With each of these commands >> opt+there >> is a lengthy delay that doesn't make the command practical to use much. >> Once it is loaded into memory, it then works fine. As for the voice, >> I use Fred on a regular basis, and still find this delay even though >> the voice used for the script is the same one that VoiceOver uses at >> other > times. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I hope this helps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Harry >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On dic 10, 2012, at 10:56 p.m., Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Me too. My theory is that the script to speak the information >>>>>>>>> has to be pulled from the hard drive and loaded into ram, then >>>>>>>>> the voice used has to be looked for and loaded if it is not >>>>>>>>> already being used. Does the script use a voice that vo is not >>>>>>>>> using by default? If so, I have a script that uses vo's own >>>>>>>>> speech, >> speeding the process a good deal. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12/11/12, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi, guys, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've noticed for quite some time that when I press >>>>>>>>>> right-option-t for time as the default for the VO keyboard >>>>>>>>>> commander time and date, there's about a twenty-second delay >>>>>>>>>> before anything is spoken. I'm just curious if anyone else >>>>>>>>>> has >> experienced this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in >>>>>>>>>> the Forsyte Saga >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this 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