Hey John its Katie. I remember seeing you in the summer of 2000! I met you at
an intensive workshop one week during August when I was at the Southern
California Conservatory of Music for 3 weeks. We were learning to use Sonar
with Jaws with about 4 other people. I had no idea you switched to the Mac,
that's awesome! I'm currently renting a Mac for a few months right now and have
really enjoyed it. I've been learning to use the Mac and Voiceover for about 3
weeks now and so far, I've been impressed with how much easier Voiceover is to
use compared with learning how to use Jaws. Sometimes, its a little challenging
like with navigating dialogs, reading paragraphs online, or interacting with
items, but its getting easier. Besides doing the quick start and getting
started tutorials for learning Voiceover, I've listened to some podcasts on the
Mac for the Blind site which have been helpful. One thing I've been learning is
to just throw everything you know about Windows aside because otherwise some of
the concepts for the Mac and Voiceover are different and you could get confused
if you try comparing how something works in Windows.
I'll try that suggestion for reading paragraphs in Text Edit.
I'm Glad to see you on the list.
Katie
----- Original Message -----
From: John Sanfilippo
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: Editing text
The odd thing about Text Edit and moving by paragraph is that, Well, I found,
you must interact with the text in order for it to work.
Press control option shift down arrow, then try vo shift page up or down and
see what happens.
John S
----- Original Message -----
From: Katie Zodrow
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: Editing text
Hi, Alex. I thought doing VO shift page up and page down reads either the
previous or next paragraph. I tried doing this command in Safari when I was
reading an article, and nothing happened. Should I just do option down or
up
arrow to read paragraphs instead? By the way, thanks for your description
on
how the cursor behaves with Voiceover on the Mac. This makes more sense
now.
I used to use outSPOKEN last time I was on a Mac with OS 9 and the cursor
navigation works the same way.
Katie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Cc: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Editing text
Yes. Cmd-left/right moves to the start or end of the line, up/down to the
top or bottom of the edit field. Option-left/right moves by word, up/down
by
paragraph. Add shift to select by the movement instead of just moving by it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 12, 2013, at 17:54, Georgina Joyce <r...@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Thanks to you both, I'll play with it again next time I boot the mini.
>
> Also are there commands for moving to the beginning and end of a line?
> Including the highlighting of that line? To the top and to the bottom?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Gena
>
>
> On 12/02/2013 22:40, Alex Hall wrote:
>> Also, it is important to disabe quicknav when editing. As to cursor
>> tracking, just leave the vo defaults for cursors following each other
and
>> you should be fine.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 12, 2013, at 16:56, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I think this might be a case of you not being use to how the cursor
acts
>>> on the Mac. On the Mac, the cursor position depends on the direction
>>> your navigating in. If navigating to the right, the cursor is located
>>> to the right of the last character or word spoken by Voiceover. If
>>> moving to the left, the cursor is located to the left of the last
>>> character or word spoken.
>>>
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>
>>> On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Georgina Joyce <r...@o2.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> I'm struggling to have fluent cursor tracking. Whether it's the mail
>>>> app, pages or safari's search field. It seems VO is not reporting the
>>>> cursor position correctly. As there are several ways of using VO i.e.
>>>> VO cursor locked to cursor, locked to mouse etc. How do I get the best
>>>> cursor tracking when editing text?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Gena
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