Hi Andrew and Lisette,

Lisette is correct: there is an accessibility problem with the latest version 
of the Kobo app used on the iPad that is not present when it is used on the 
iPhone or iPod Touch.  There is a button in the top left corner of the screen 
that VoiceOver is not announcing/recognizing.  This was described in a post 
that preceded the linked post I originally gave you on the mac-access list, 
that described how to set up your library in list view.  (I tend to read both 
up and down threads when I find links using the Mail Archive search functions, 
by using Control-N to read the next post in a thread, and Control-P to read the 
previous post.  I often read through the entire thread to check out the context 
of earlier discussions.)  Here's the mac-access post I mean that outlines the 
problems with using Kobo on the iPad:
• Re: Accessible ebook reader for Mac
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg56339.html
If you follow the thread down by using the Control-N keyboard shortcut twice, 
you'll reach my earlier linked post that explains how to change the display 
view of your Kobo library from "shelf" to "list", and which also includes a 
second way to speed up navigation to your library that is available in the most 
recent version of the Kobo app for iPhone and iPod Touch, which lets you flick 
right to past "My Recent Reads" to the "iPhone Home Disclosure" button and 
double tap.  (In previous versions of the app you had to double tap the large, 
unlabeled button that took up most of the bottom left corner of the screen, and 
which had a labeled "Library" entry just below the button -- this still works, 
but I find flicking to "iPhone Home Disclosure" a bit faster.  It's just a 
matter of personal preference.)

You might be able to configure the iPad version of the Kobo app with sighted 
help.  I haven't pursued this.  If you do get this set up, the iPad version of 
the Kobo app doesn't have an option to select a page transition style of 
"scrolling".  It was still possible to navigate past the beginning and end of 
chapters, and past cover images and graphics, but just less convenient if you 
were used a paired keyboard or Braille device.  In the Kobo app you can always 
navigate to the next page by toggling VoiceOver off and tapping the right side 
of the screen.  Similarly, you can always navigate to the previous page with 
VoiceOver toggled off by tapping the left side of the screen.  Alternatively, 
you can navigate to the table of contents (currently announced as "iPhone 
Toolbar Contents" button on my iPhone in the page controls near the top of the 
screen) and select a Chapter to move to a new section.  This is doable but less 
convenient than using the scrolling page transition style with a keyboard 
because: 1) you can't just activate a linkimage with your paired device at the 
beginning or end of a chapter to move to the previous or next chapter and 2) 
you may have to bring up the page controls by double tapping in the center of 
the screen. (This toggles the page controls at the top and bottom of the screen 
between show and hide.)

The key to using Adobe Digital Editions and avoiding crashing with VoiceOver on 
your Mac is not to try interacting.  Instead, just navigate to the next using 
the controls in the application for the content to be automatically read, and 
use  your arrow keys to switch pages.  Also, you can select a small font so 
that more text appears on each page that you copy with VO-Shift-C.

Here's a sample response describing how to avoid crashing this way from the 
macvisionaries list archives:
• Re: Accessible ebook reader for Mac
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg56339.html
This includes both my reply and Anne's earlier response on the subject.

Hopefully, a later version of Adobe Digital Editions will include improvements 
in navigation.  These did get added for Windows screen readers in the last 
version of the application, but you still cannot navigate by paragraph, line, 
word, or character within the application using VoiceOver on the Mac.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

  
On Mar 4, 2013, at 07:58, Lisette Wesseling wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
> I've not had as much success with the iPad version of the Kobo app. I can't 
> seem to get past the log in screne, so I've sort of given up for now. It 
> could just be me, but I find the iPhone version easier to use.
> 
> Lisette
> 
> On 4/03/2013, at 9:26 PM, Andrew Lamanche <andrew.laman...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dear Lisette and Esther,
>> 
>> Thank you very much for the explanations and tips regarding reading drm 
>> protected ebooks on the mac and idevices. Do you know whether I can use the 
>> kobo app with my iPad 2?
>> 
>> Also, I've been having lots of crashes of Voiceover in adobe digital edition 
>> when trying to interact with the page that's currently being read. Reading 
>> the archives of the list in googlegroups regarding adobe digital edition, I 
>> can see that others have had a similar experience. I must admit that the 
>> inability of reading by line is a definite drawback especially with academic 
>> books but thanks Esther for the tip of copying a whole page spoken with 
>> vo+shift+c and pasting it into a text reader for more detailed examination. 
>> It is a solution for now. I'm delighted though that adobe digital solution 
>> has been improved.
>> 
>> With many thanks again.
>> 
>> Andrew

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