zoey,
Bootcamp is set up by a program on the MAC called bootcamp assistant. That
program partitions the drive for you and starts the installation process of
Windows. That is, it partitions the drive then asks you to put the windows
disk in the CD drive, then reboots and begins the Windows installation
processIt also lets you download and burn the bootcamp drivers onto a CD
which you'll need after installing windows. These bootcamp drivers let
windows access the mac hardware etc. From the reboot onward, you need
sighted assistance to go through the windows install screens, install the
bootcamp drivers, and finally, get a screen reader loaded into windows so
you can take over from there. I had a semi-computer literate friend sit here
and read the screens to me as we installed Windows - that's all - no need
for high-priced tech assistance.
Or,
With fusion, you can just install windows into a VMWare Virtual machine
which is just a big file on the MAC file system - its not a separate
partition on the HD. As I understand it, installing windows into a virtual
machine in VMWare is accessible with VoiceOver.
Thirdly, from within VMWare Fusion, you can import a previously installed
bootcamp partition into fusion and run it like any other virtual machine, or
just run the bootcamp partition version of windows without even importing it
into fusion.
So, there's three different options
1) have a dual boot system, called bootcamping, that requires rebooting to
go from one OS to the other.
2) create a windows virtual machine in fusion which doesn't require
partitioning the HD, and can be done without sighted assistance. or,
3) Either run, or import and run an existing bootcamp partition from fusion
.
I'm not real sure about the difference between simply running a bootcamp vs
importing and running it from within Fusion, there's not much difference I
don't think.
----- Original Message -----
From: "zoe" <fiog...@rogers.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
Oh ok got it now. One more question that I thought of and please accept
my
appologies for asking what may seem stupid questions and for asking them
scattered, my mind is all over the place and I seem to be asking questions
as they come. Am I to understand that with bootcamp the drive would be
partitioned but with fusion it would not? Apple said for the partitioning
of the drive they would charge me two hundred and fifty dollars, if I half
to pay it oh well, then I will, but have I gotten confused somewhere down
the line? I'm sure the drive is partitioned for bootcamp but fusion?
Thanks again and again I'm so sorry for my confusion.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
No, Refit is free and something you will add once you get your machine.
Jaws
can only read the Windows logon/lock screens, not the boot screen. When a
computer first boots, no operating system has started yet, which is why no
screen reader can possibly be loaded.
On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:21 PM, zoe <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:
hmmmm refit manager is that something extra I half to by or can apple add
it
on for me? Also since I'm going to be installing windows with jaws, and
jaws can be configured to the log screen would that do the trick?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
Voiceover cannot speak on the boot screen since it is not loaded yet.
Apple
would have to add some form of speech into BIOS, which would be difficult
to
impossible. You can do what I did, though: install the Refit Boot
Manager,
letting you press m for mac or w for windows when you boot the machine.
On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:20 AM, zoe <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:
Oh thanks so much, good to know I won't have problems with jaws. As I
said
the man at the apple store actually suggested parallel but if fusion
does
the trick and most people seem to like it I guess maybe that's the way
to
go
especially if I'm going to be asking for advice on the use of the
program.
The man at the store thought parallel was a better choice but didn't
state
the reasons why. Don't mean to be repetative but can apple configure
voiceover for me when shipping the imac to me to start up automatically?
Also if using fusion will voiceover speak on the log screen to help me
navigate weather I want to boot mac or windows?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicholas Parsons" <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
Yes, you can install JAWS or any other screen reader on the Windows part
of
your Mac. It doesn't matter whether it's running as a duel installation
(i.e. bootcamp) or as a virtual machine (e.g. VM Fusion).
I am curious if any of these people who keep saying parallels is
inaccessible have actually tried using it lately, or whether they are
just
passing along old hearsay that might now be obselete. I think Alex at
least
mentioned that he hadn't used it lately and things might have changed. I
was
told fairly recently that Parallels was accessible with JAWS, but that
there
was some problem with the JAWS key which is typically the insert key by
default. I've never tried installing Windows on my Mac in any form
though
so
I don't know. I'm just worried though that this might be one of those
accessibility rumours that gets propogated longer than it should because
of
course no one tests the thing anymore because they are told it's not
accessible.
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