Open gmail.com, then do a find command and search for "basic ". That should give you the "basic html" link - hit enter on that and things will be much easier. Once the page loads, see if the word "default" appears anywhere and, if it does, hit that link as well so the basic interface is your default. On Jun 20, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Phil, Chris, and Others, > > Thank you so much for your detailed instructions and tips for getting up and > running using Bootcamp. I am good to go, and I can't say how much I > appreciate the help. Now I just have to get used to using JAWS again. > > As a complete side note, does VoiceOver or JAWS either one work well with the > Gmail web interfase? > > Thanks, > > Harry > > On Jun 19, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote: > >> As others have mentioned, for bootcamp you have to partition your drive into >> two pieces, a Mac chunk and a Windows chunk, which means both sides will >> have less space and you have to plan ahead since you can't easily change >> this down the road. That means you might have to allocate a bunch of space >> to Windows 'just in case' which gets taken away from the mac side. Fusion is >> just an app except the documents it creates are virtual machines. You can >> give a Fusion virtual machine a large partition but the 'document' will only >> use as much as needed. Just like you can make a Pages doc that is 100 blank >> pages and it will be pretty tiny because there is nothing in it. So this is >> a big advantage. You don't have to know ahead of time how much space to give >> to Fusion. Just give it 40GB or so and then it will only use the 9-10GB it >> actually needs and will grow that space as needed. You launch Fusion when >> you need to do some Windows stuff and quit it when you're done. Other than >> the disk space it uses up for the virtual machine document it has no impact >> on the performance of your Mac once you quit it. While it's running it will >> suck up whatever CPU and memory you've allocated to the virtual windows >> machine but then you quit and that all comes back to the Mac side. >> >> I haven't used boot camp but disk utility is fully accessible so you should >> be able to do the disk partitioning yourself if you want to go that way. I'm >> sure others here can give the blow by blow instructions. >> >> CB >> >> On 6/16/13 6:21 PM, zoe wrote: >>> Oh ok got it now. One more question that I thought of and please accept my >>> appologies for asking what may seem stupid questions and for asking them >>> scattered, my mind is all over the place and I seem to be asking questions >>> as they come. Am I to understand that with bootcamp the drive would be >>> partitioned but with fusion it would not? Apple said for the partitioning >>> of the drive they would charge me two hundred and fifty dollars, if I half >>> to pay it oh well, then I will, but have I gotten confused somewhere down >>> the line? I'm sure the drive is partitioned for bootcamp but fusion? >>> Thanks again and again I'm so sorry for my confusion. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@gmail.com> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:50 PM >>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel >>> >>> >>> No, Refit is free and something you will add once you get your machine. Jaws >>> can only read the Windows logon/lock screens, not the boot screen. When a >>> computer first boots, no operating system has started yet, which is why no >>> screen reader can possibly be loaded. >>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:21 PM, zoe <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote: >>> >>>> hmmmm refit manager is that something extra I half to by or can apple add >>>> it >>>> on for me? Also since I'm going to be installing windows with jaws, and >>>> jaws can be configured to the log screen would that do the trick? >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@gmail.com> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:46 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel >>>> >>>> >>>> Voiceover cannot speak on the boot screen since it is not loaded yet. >>>> Apple >>>> would have to add some form of speech into BIOS, which would be difficult >>>> to >>>> impossible. You can do what I did, though: install the Refit Boot Manager, >>>> letting you press m for mac or w for windows when you boot the machine. >>>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:20 AM, zoe <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Oh thanks so much, good to know I won't have problems with jaws. As I >>>>> said >>>>> the man at the apple store actually suggested parallel but if fusion does >>>>> the trick and most people seem to like it I guess maybe that's the way to >>>>> go >>>>> especially if I'm going to be asking for advice on the use of the >>>>> program. >>>>> The man at the store thought parallel was a better choice but didn't >>>>> state >>>>> the reasons why. Don't mean to be repetative but can apple configure >>>>> voiceover for me when shipping the imac to me to start up automatically? >>>>> Also if using fusion will voiceover speak on the log screen to help me >>>>> navigate weather I want to boot mac or windows? >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Nicholas Parsons" <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:51 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes, you can install JAWS or any other screen reader on the Windows part >>>>> of >>>>> your Mac. It doesn't matter whether it's running as a duel installation >>>>> (i.e. bootcamp) or as a virtual machine (e.g. VM Fusion). >>>>> >>>>> I am curious if any of these people who keep saying parallels is >>>>> inaccessible have actually tried using it lately, or whether they are >>>>> just >>>>> passing along old hearsay that might now be obselete. I think Alex at >>>>> least >>>>> mentioned that he hadn't used it lately and things might have changed. I >>>>> was >>>>> told fairly recently that Parallels was accessible with JAWS, but that >>>>> there >>>>> was some problem with the JAWS key which is typically the insert key by >>>>> default. I've never tried installing Windows on my Mac in any form though >>>>> so >>>>> I don't know. I'm just worried though that this might be one of those >>>>> accessibility rumours that gets propogated longer than it should because >>>>> of >>>>> course no one tests the thing anymore because they are told it's not >>>>> accessible. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> mehg...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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