I want to personally thank you for the tips and references you have offered here. I'm an experienced programmer though I have barely touched programming with xcode. I have one of those books I recently bought for introducing iOS programming but I think I would rather start with something on the Mac first and then move to an iOS environment. Anyway, there's a bunch to learn here. I'm anxious to move away from mainframe programming as that has been a dieing profession for years.
On Jul 6, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Barry Hadder <bhad...@gmail.com> wrote: > First, just to be clear I never have mouse follows vo turned on in the > utility. > Put vo on the unknown and then rout the mouse. Make sure the mouse is where > you want it with vo-f5. If it isn't, some times the splitters can inter fear > so you might need to try moving them around. Same thing in the header file. > I lock the mouse with shift-vo-command-space then move vo to the header file. > I've noticed that starting in Lion, the mouse follows vo when the mouse is > locked and cursor tracking is on. I have cursor tracking when I drag to a > header file. There are other situations when you will need to turn it off. > > Last but not least, XCode can be buggy. You just have to learn to deal with > it if you use it. > > On Jul 6, 2013, at 2:27 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Barry, > > Just as clarification, when you drag, what state is mouse pointer on? Do you > go to the unknown, vo command shift space with mouse following voice over > cursor, then go to the header file, or do you first toggle cursor tracking > off before moving from unknown to the header file? > > > Best regards, and thanks a lot for helping out > > > > "Light has no value without darkness" > > > > On 6/07/2013, at 8:04 AM, Barry Hadder <bhad...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> There has been some discussion recently in regards to whether or not one can >> use Voiceover with Interface builder. I'm not sure that this list is the >> most appropriate place for discussing this, but I feel that there have been >> some inaccurate assertions made and I wanted to attempt to clear up a few >> points for the sate of those who are programmers on this list and are >> interested in learning about developing apps with XCode. >> >> As the subject implies, I am using the tutorial found at >> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#referencelibrary/GettingStarted/RoadMapOSX/books/RM_YourFirstApp_Mac/Articles/GettingStarted.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012262-TP40012101-CH2-SW8. >> I realize the IOS is the hottest thing, but I think that this example is a >> little cleaner for the purpose of explaining this. It works the same for >> the most part for an IOS app and I will point out the most important >> differences at the end. I'm also only going to go over laying out the >> window and referencing the objects in the xib in your code. The tutorial >> explains how to create a project etc. >> >> Make sure that the xib is opened in the source area and that the utilities >> are visible with command-option-0. >> >> First, add the controls to the windows content view: >> 1. With the mainmenu.xib file opened in the source group, make sure the >> document outline is visible. You should see a table with all of the objects >> in the xib. >> 2. Find the window object in the table and expand it to expose the content >> view. >> 3. Move vo to the library group, interact, and select the object library >> radio button. >> 4. Find text field, with vo, rout the mouse to vo, and lock the mouse. >> 5. Move vo to the windows content view in the outline, then release the >> mouse. Now the content view should contain the textfield. (Note that this >> can be glitchy sometimes and you might have to try it again but not very >> often.) >> 6. Repeat for the slider and button. >> >> Designing the layout: >> >> I'm going to arrange the controls in a column centered in the window and >> left justified with the button close to the bottom of the window. >> >> 1. Select the content view and go to the size inspector. Git the width and >> height. I have 480 by 360 >> 2. In the xib, select the text field and. In the size inspector, make sure >> layout rectangle is selected and select the origin to be the top left corner. >> 3. In the origin section, type 20 in the x field and 340 for the y value. >> Then stretch it across the window until the right side is 20 points from the >> right edge by selecting the origin in the top left corner and typing a value >> of 440 in the width field. Note that you could also resize the window to >> fit the text field, but this is more simple. >> 4. Change the origin to the bottom left corner and get the y value. I have >> 318. >> 5. Select the slider and in the size inspector, set the origin to top left, >> set the x origin to 20 and the y to 308. That positions the slider 20 >> points from the left edge of the window and 10 points below the textfield. >> 6. With the button selected, set the origin to bottom left, set x origin to >> 20 and the y origin to 20. >> >> You can build an run at this point, but you can also check your work with >> out even running the app by choosing "simulate document in the editor menu. >> Cocoa simulator will open and you should be able to move vo up and down >> through the lined up controls. >> >> Create actions and outlets: >> 1. Select the AppDelegate object in the outline and open the assistant >> editor. In the source pain, you should now see the appdelegate.h file >> opened next to the xib. >> 2. Select the button in the xib file and in the connections inspector, find >> the sent actions list. >> 3. The only item at this point in the list is selector. Move vo to the >> unknown item directly to the right of it and drag from it to the area in the >> header file between the @interface and @end directives. >> 4. When you release the mouse at this point, a connections dialog will come >> up where you will type the name of the action.. Type mute then press ok. >> In the header file, you will now see the definition of the action. - >> (IBAction)mute:(id)sender; >> 5. Select the text field in the outline and in the connections inspector, >> find the referencing outlets list. >> 6. drag from the unknown thing next to "new referencing outlet" to a blank >> area in the class declaration in the header file. In the connection dialog >> type textField in the name. >> 7. Repeat for the slider. >> >> When you are done, you will see the following objective c property >> definitions: >> @property (weak) IBOutlet NSTextField* textField; >> @property (weak) IBOutlet NSSlider* slider; >> >> And that is all there is to it. >> One difference I want to point out between UIKit and AppKit is that the >> origin in UIKit is in the top left corner of the screen and the y values >> grow downward. So to place a control in the top left corner of a view, the >> origin in the top left corner of a content view would be 20x20. >> >> This is a lot harder to right about than it is to do. I hope I explained it >> well enough that someone gets something out of it. 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