Kawal, I have two VM's running win7 with JAWS and have them set to use the SharpKeys solution where sharpKeys swaps the capslock and the grave accent functions from within windows. I just set one of my VM's to do it the other way mentioned here using fusion keymapping to set the grave accent key to be an insert key.
It works fine, and I like it because its simpler and avoids messing around with the registry. the only drawback I see is that the fusion way, you completely lose the grave accent key, and there's no way to produce a grave or tilda in case you ever needed to do so. with SharpKeys remap, the capslock key will produce the grave and tilda keys when needed. Other than that, I like your/pauls way better. Can you think of any reason that not having the grave key would be a show stopper? On 8/9/13, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> wrote: > nice! :) > > On 8/9/13, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote: >> The advantage of doing it Paul's way is that it doesn't matter how many >> VM >> Machines you have with Windows, you can always have an insert key that >> way >> paul says in his message below. One of the reasons why I only use VM >> preferences. >> >> Kawal. >> >> On 9 Aug 2013, at 11:38 AM, Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Sandy, >>> >>> Capslock is trickey to do under fusion, so let's just use the insert >>> key. >>> Insert is normally not available on a mac keyboard. There is a key that >>> you could use as insert though, which is the accent key, on US keyboard >>> just below escape. To map the accent key to become the insert key as >>> long >>> as you have windows on, do the following. >>> >>> Open fusion and make sure that all VM's are shut off. Then hit command >>> comma, to get into the preferences for fusion. From the toolbar, select >>> keyboard and mouse. You now see your current key mappings. Skip the >>> profile bit. Just leave that at default. Hit add, to add a new mapping. >>> >>> In the dialog that comes, VO over to the first combobox. This is where >>> you >>> set your source key to be mapped, in your case accent. So, once on the >>> combobox, just hit accent and move on. You'll then find the to, field. >>> Skip all the checkboxes and stop on the next combobox. This is where you >>> select the key you want to happen, if you hit your accent key, so we >>> must >>> select insert in here. If you hit VO space on the combobox, a list will >>> pop up as usual. Select insert, but do not hit VO space. What you have >>> to >>> do in little, non-standard interface, is stop interacting till you can >>> not >>> go up any further. This leaves the combobox alone, having insert >>> selected. >>> Now hit okay and you have your insert key. Exit fusion preferences by >>> hitting command w, for close window. >>> >>> Fire up windows and NVDA, hold down accent, below escape, and hit n. If >>> all went well, the NVDA menu will pop up, because NVDA thinks it sees >>> insert plus n. If that does not happen, go back into fusion preferences >>> and check your mapping. If it was wrong, delete it and start over. >>> >>> Hth, >>> Paul. >>> On Aug 9, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Paul, and first of all thank you for the tidbits, :) it is always >>>> wonderful to get help from others who knows more about a given >>>> situation than one might. >>>> What i have done so far, and it is not given it is the best thing, but >>>> more about that later on. >>>> Eventually i have a scanner, it won't run under mac, so i simply took >>>> a old xp cd, inserted it into the 12 core mac pro, installed windows >>>> on it and more or less have mapped the keys as you said, installed >>>> nvda and after that moved it allover via the usb key on the mac book >>>> air. Now of course i need to set the nvda keys up, but I'm confident >>>> i can do that on my own :) >>>> >>>> >>>> have a wonderful day >>>> >>>> >>>> sandi >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8/9/13, Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi Sandy and others interested, >>>>> >>>>> After you have fusion installed and you have a windows vm running, you >>>>> can >>>>> go a few different ways. As it is by default with fusion and windows, >>>>> the >>>>> command key next to the spacebar, is not the alt key as you would >>>>> expect >>>>> from a windows keyboard. Instead, command is now the windows logo key, >>>>> while >>>>> the mac option key is alt, in windows. You can choose to leave that as >>>>> it >>>>> is, or you can swap the keys if you prefer so. You can do this in the >>>>> global >>>>> preferences inside fusion, command comma, when all VMs are shut down. >>>>> There >>>>> is a keyboard setup screen with multiple tab sheets there, available >>>>> from >>>>> the toolbar. You'll find a listbox there, containing all current, >>>>> default >>>>> key bindings. For example, the mac user does a command c to copy, >>>>> while >>>>> in >>>>> windows, you would do control c rather than command c. So, fusion, to >>>>> make >>>>> the windows interface as intuitive as possible for the mac user, >>>>> assigns >>>>> command c to be mapped to control c. In other words, in a windows >>>>> virtual >>>>> machine, by default, command c does the same thing as control c. >>>>> >>>>> This is not always what you want. There are a few other keystrokes >>>>> that >>>>> can >>>>> get in your way, mapped inside this same screen, that you may want to >>>>> get >>>>> rid of, depending on your preference. For instance, command h, by >>>>> default in >>>>> windows fusion, maps to hide the current application, in this case >>>>> fusion >>>>> itself, while alt h in windows, will simply open, or pull down, the >>>>> help >>>>> menu for the current program. This is only true, if you swap the >>>>> windows >>>>> and >>>>> alt keys yourself, so that the windows keyboard feels more like a >>>>> windows >>>>> one. When I was inside windows working happily away, I pressed alt h >>>>> to >>>>> open >>>>> the help, and suddenly speech went away. I later discovered, that >>>>> fusion >>>>> was >>>>> out of focus, and so I was in the mac system. After turning voiceover >>>>> back >>>>> on, I could navigate back into windows, turn it off, and continue >>>>> windowing. >>>>> so depending on your preference, you might want to do away with these >>>>> key >>>>> bindings. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, over 10 key combinations are here by default, and simply by >>>>> highlighting the key you don't want changed and hitting the remove >>>>> button >>>>> next to the list box, you can get rid of them. >>>>> >>>>> In windows xp, you can start narrator in a few ways. You can type in >>>>> its >>>>> name and have windows start that up. In this case, hit alt plus r, >>>>> type >>>>> narrator, and hit enter. Or, you can start narrator by launching what >>>>> is >>>>> called the utility manager in windows. This is a program for assistive >>>>> technologies, and if you run that, it also happens to invoke narrator. >>>>> To >>>>> start narrator this way, simply hit windows logo, plus the u key, as >>>>> in >>>>> utility manager. Be aware though, that you now have 2 programs open, >>>>> the >>>>> utility manager and the narrator. If you then alt tab to the utility >>>>> manager, you can safely close it, without loosing speech, because >>>>> narrator >>>>> is still running, and so you no longer need utility manager to be >>>>> running, >>>>> because you only used it to invoke narrator. >>>>> >>>>> In windows 7, I found that the easiest way to get narrator to talk, is >>>>> by >>>>> hitting alt plus r, typing narrator followed by enter. You can still >>>>> use >>>>> utility manager, but I don't know its keystrokes. Once narrator is >>>>> running, >>>>> you need a way to get NVDA or any screen reader of choice, to run in >>>>> windows. To do that, you could use a USB stick, but there's an easier >>>>> method. >>>>> >>>>> You can access your mac files, from within windows, using a service >>>>> that >>>>> fusion gives you. >>>>> If, during the windows setup in fusion, you chose to set windows up >>>>> more >>>>> seamless, as opposed to more isolated, then in seemless mode, there is >>>>> an >>>>> icon on your desktop called vmware shared folders. Technically, this >>>>> is >>>>> a >>>>> virtual network connection, but in practice, this takes you into your >>>>> mac >>>>> file system, and if you have NVDA downloaded there somewhere, then you >>>>> can >>>>> easily install it. >>>>> >>>>> If you move to windows 7 from xp, which is wise in the near future >>>>> given >>>>> the >>>>> fact that security updates will no longer appear after april 14th >>>>> 2014, >>>>> then >>>>> if you install NVDA, it may seem to hang during the installation. This >>>>> is in >>>>> fact not true, but what I had to find out about before being able to >>>>> install >>>>> NVDA, is that on the screen, but in the background, there is a user >>>>> access >>>>> control window, asking you if you really want to install a new peace >>>>> of >>>>> software. UAC protects you from installing unintentional things, by >>>>> popping >>>>> up a warning if windows sees that stuff is being installed, and that's >>>>> all >>>>> fine and good, but not if you are not aware of this window appearing >>>>> in >>>>> the >>>>> background, while you are awaiting the finish of the NVDA >>>>> installation. >>>>> What >>>>> you can do is, simply alt tab to this UAC window, say yes, and >>>>> immediately >>>>> NVDA goes on and installs. >>>>> >>>>> Hth, >>>>> Paul. >>>>> On Aug 8, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> hi, eventually i have at long last got vmware up and run with >>>>>> windows, >>>>>> but can anyone tell me what do i do from there? getting narrator or >>>>>> nvda up and run would be a good thing, but how? all this done with >>>>>> vo, >>>>>> of course :) >>>>>> any help is mostly appreciated >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> sandi >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send >>>>>> an >>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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