HI. I haven't needed the grave or accent key yet. I can still use it on the mac side but don't really need it there either.
Cheers Maria sent from mac mini email, & fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com skype bubbygirl1972 twitter same as skype without the numbers. On 10/08/2013, at 7:28 AM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Kawal, I have two VM's running win7 with JAWS and have them set to use > the SharpKeys solution where sharpKeys swaps the capslock and the > grave accent functions from within windows. I just set one of my VM's > to do it the other way mentioned here using fusion keymapping to set > the grave accent key to be an insert key. > > It works fine, and I like it because its simpler and avoids messing > around with the registry. the only drawback I see is that the fusion > way, you completely lose the grave accent key, and there's no way to > produce a grave or tilda in case you ever needed to do so. > > with SharpKeys remap, the capslock key will produce the grave and > tilda keys when needed. Other than that, I like your/pauls way better. > Can you think of any reason that not having the grave key would be a > show stopper? > > > On 8/9/13, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> nice! :) >> >> On 8/9/13, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote: >>> The advantage of doing it Paul's way is that it doesn't matter how many >>> VM >>> Machines you have with Windows, you can always have an insert key that >>> way >>> paul says in his message below. One of the reasons why I only use VM >>> preferences. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> On 9 Aug 2013, at 11:38 AM, Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Sandy, >>>> >>>> Capslock is trickey to do under fusion, so let's just use the insert >>>> key. >>>> Insert is normally not available on a mac keyboard. There is a key that >>>> you could use as insert though, which is the accent key, on US keyboard >>>> just below escape. To map the accent key to become the insert key as >>>> long >>>> as you have windows on, do the following. >>>> >>>> Open fusion and make sure that all VM's are shut off. Then hit command >>>> comma, to get into the preferences for fusion. From the toolbar, select >>>> keyboard and mouse. You now see your current key mappings. Skip the >>>> profile bit. Just leave that at default. Hit add, to add a new mapping. >>>> >>>> In the dialog that comes, VO over to the first combobox. This is where >>>> you >>>> set your source key to be mapped, in your case accent. So, once on the >>>> combobox, just hit accent and move on. You'll then find the to, field. >>>> Skip all the checkboxes and stop on the next combobox. This is where you >>>> select the key you want to happen, if you hit your accent key, so we >>>> must >>>> select insert in here. If you hit VO space on the combobox, a list will >>>> pop up as usual. Select insert, but do not hit VO space. What you have >>>> to >>>> do in little, non-standard interface, is stop interacting till you can >>>> not >>>> go up any further. This leaves the combobox alone, having insert >>>> selected. >>>> Now hit okay and you have your insert key. Exit fusion preferences by >>>> hitting command w, for close window. >>>> >>>> Fire up windows and NVDA, hold down accent, below escape, and hit n. If >>>> all went well, the NVDA menu will pop up, because NVDA thinks it sees >>>> insert plus n. If that does not happen, go back into fusion preferences >>>> and check your mapping. If it was wrong, delete it and start over. >>>> >>>> Hth, >>>> Paul. >>>> On Aug 9, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Paul, and first of all thank you for the tidbits, :) it is always >>>>> wonderful to get help from others who knows more about a given >>>>> situation than one might. >>>>> What i have done so far, and it is not given it is the best thing, but >>>>> more about that later on. >>>>> Eventually i have a scanner, it won't run under mac, so i simply took >>>>> a old xp cd, inserted it into the 12 core mac pro, installed windows >>>>> on it and more or less have mapped the keys as you said, installed >>>>> nvda and after that moved it allover via the usb key on the mac book >>>>> air. Now of course i need to set the nvda keys up, but I'm confident >>>>> i can do that on my own :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> have a wonderful day >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> sandi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8/9/13, Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Sandy and others interested, >>>>>> >>>>>> After you have fusion installed and you have a windows vm running, you >>>>>> can >>>>>> go a few different ways. As it is by default with fusion and windows, >>>>>> the >>>>>> command key next to the spacebar, is not the alt key as you would >>>>>> expect >>>>>> from a windows keyboard. Instead, command is now the windows logo key, >>>>>> while >>>>>> the mac option key is alt, in windows. You can choose to leave that as >>>>>> it >>>>>> is, or you can swap the keys if you prefer so. You can do this in the >>>>>> global >>>>>> preferences inside fusion, command comma, when all VMs are shut down. >>>>>> There >>>>>> is a keyboard setup screen with multiple tab sheets there, available >>>>>> from >>>>>> the toolbar. You'll find a listbox there, containing all current, >>>>>> default >>>>>> key bindings. For example, the mac user does a command c to copy, >>>>>> while >>>>>> in >>>>>> windows, you would do control c rather than command c. So, fusion, to >>>>>> make >>>>>> the windows interface as intuitive as possible for the mac user, >>>>>> assigns >>>>>> command c to be mapped to control c. In other words, in a windows >>>>>> virtual >>>>>> machine, by default, command c does the same thing as control c. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is not always what you want. There are a few other keystrokes >>>>>> that >>>>>> can >>>>>> get in your way, mapped inside this same screen, that you may want to >>>>>> get >>>>>> rid of, depending on your preference. For instance, command h, by >>>>>> default in >>>>>> windows fusion, maps to hide the current application, in this case >>>>>> fusion >>>>>> itself, while alt h in windows, will simply open, or pull down, the >>>>>> help >>>>>> menu for the current program. This is only true, if you swap the >>>>>> windows >>>>>> and >>>>>> alt keys yourself, so that the windows keyboard feels more like a >>>>>> windows >>>>>> one. When I was inside windows working happily away, I pressed alt h >>>>>> to >>>>>> open >>>>>> the help, and suddenly speech went away. I later discovered, that >>>>>> fusion >>>>>> was >>>>>> out of focus, and so I was in the mac system. After turning voiceover >>>>>> back >>>>>> on, I could navigate back into windows, turn it off, and continue >>>>>> windowing. >>>>>> so depending on your preference, you might want to do away with these >>>>>> key >>>>>> bindings. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, over 10 key combinations are here by default, and simply by >>>>>> highlighting the key you don't want changed and hitting the remove >>>>>> button >>>>>> next to the list box, you can get rid of them. >>>>>> >>>>>> In windows xp, you can start narrator in a few ways. You can type in >>>>>> its >>>>>> name and have windows start that up. In this case, hit alt plus r, >>>>>> type >>>>>> narrator, and hit enter. Or, you can start narrator by launching what >>>>>> is >>>>>> called the utility manager in windows. This is a program for assistive >>>>>> technologies, and if you run that, it also happens to invoke narrator. >>>>>> To >>>>>> start narrator this way, simply hit windows logo, plus the u key, as >>>>>> in >>>>>> utility manager. Be aware though, that you now have 2 programs open, >>>>>> the >>>>>> utility manager and the narrator. If you then alt tab to the utility >>>>>> manager, you can safely close it, without loosing speech, because >>>>>> narrator >>>>>> is still running, and so you no longer need utility manager to be >>>>>> running, >>>>>> because you only used it to invoke narrator. >>>>>> >>>>>> In windows 7, I found that the easiest way to get narrator to talk, is >>>>>> by >>>>>> hitting alt plus r, typing narrator followed by enter. You can still >>>>>> use >>>>>> utility manager, but I don't know its keystrokes. Once narrator is >>>>>> running, >>>>>> you need a way to get NVDA or any screen reader of choice, to run in >>>>>> windows. To do that, you could use a USB stick, but there's an easier >>>>>> method. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can access your mac files, from within windows, using a service >>>>>> that >>>>>> fusion gives you. >>>>>> If, during the windows setup in fusion, you chose to set windows up >>>>>> more >>>>>> seamless, as opposed to more isolated, then in seemless mode, there is >>>>>> an >>>>>> icon on your desktop called vmware shared folders. Technically, this >>>>>> is >>>>>> a >>>>>> virtual network connection, but in practice, this takes you into your >>>>>> mac >>>>>> file system, and if you have NVDA downloaded there somewhere, then you >>>>>> can >>>>>> easily install it. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you move to windows 7 from xp, which is wise in the near future >>>>>> given >>>>>> the >>>>>> fact that security updates will no longer appear after april 14th >>>>>> 2014, >>>>>> then >>>>>> if you install NVDA, it may seem to hang during the installation. This >>>>>> is in >>>>>> fact not true, but what I had to find out about before being able to >>>>>> install >>>>>> NVDA, is that on the screen, but in the background, there is a user >>>>>> access >>>>>> control window, asking you if you really want to install a new peace >>>>>> of >>>>>> software. UAC protects you from installing unintentional things, by >>>>>> popping >>>>>> up a warning if windows sees that stuff is being installed, and that's >>>>>> all >>>>>> fine and good, but not if you are not aware of this window appearing >>>>>> in >>>>>> the >>>>>> background, while you are awaiting the finish of the NVDA >>>>>> installation. >>>>>> What >>>>>> you can do is, simply alt tab to this UAC window, say yes, and >>>>>> immediately >>>>>> NVDA goes on and installs. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hth, >>>>>> Paul. >>>>>> On Aug 8, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> hi, eventually i have at long last got vmware up and run with >>>>>>> windows, >>>>>>> but can anyone tell me what do i do from there? getting narrator or >>>>>>> nvda up and run would be a good thing, but how? all this done with >>>>>>> vo, >>>>>>> of course :) >>>>>>> any help is mostly appreciated >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sandi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an >>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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