Well, the old saying goes,  "you get what you pay for"  And since mavericks
was free, I am sure they probably didn't make the same effort as in the past
to make sure everything worked.  As for moving your messages, if you have
both iCloud and gmail accounts in apple mail, just select the messages you
want to move, and then do vo shift m and pick the icloud mailbox where you
want them to go.  Icloud will sink it just fine.  I dumped gmail for an
email client, but still use them for google drive since that is 25GB of free
space.  HTH

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:00 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Gmail Issues in Mavericks, Pretty Major, Folks

I agree with you, Ricardo. I'm not generally one to cut Apple or any other
big company much slack when it comes to buggy software releases. But in this
case, the article that somebody posted a few days ago about this Gmail
problem indicates that the real problem is with Gmail, because it does not
do things in the standard manner. Apple made an attempt to improve how it
works with this nonstandard implementation by Gmail, and it's not working
out so well. What I wonder is if there is any way to move a whole lot of
messages that I have stored in Gmail to another provider, such as Apple. I
do have an iCloud email account, and it works quite well. Now that I have
mountain lion and have access to my iCloud mail on the Mac as well as the
iPhone and iPad, I would be perfectly happy to dump Gmail. It is a pain on
the web, so good riddance. But I do have a great lot of messages stored in
various folders there, and moving all that over would be a major pain I
fear.
Mary


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On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm pretty sure their trying to fix it quickly.  I'm not sure if their
trying to force people to use their e-mail service either.  My Microsoft
IMAP account works just fine after all.  And it's in Apple's best interest
to have the number one mail provider in the world work in their Mail client.
Otherwise, people will just use something els not use an .ME account.
> 
> JMO.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Oct 26, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hey Nick,
>> 
>> You summed up my thoughts exactly. I use email more than anything and am
a Gmail and Godaddy email user, so this Gmail issue is causing me not to
upgrade to Mavericks. This has to be a big deal between Apple and Google. It
almost seems to me that Apple is trying to force people to use their @me.com
or whatever they are calling it these days which I have no interest in
doing. At least this Gmail bug is not a Voiceover specific bug so I have
hope that Apple will try and fix it fairly quickly.
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons
<mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> HI Teresa,
>>> In what ways is gmail still clunky for you? I still haven't upgraded
mainly because of this supposed Mail issue. Mail is probably my favourite
and most used app on the Mac, so I'm not sure all the great new features of
Mavericks, and some of them really sound fantastic, are worth a poorer Mail
experience for me. So I'd really appreciate any details you can give about
how it's working for you.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nic :)
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