I have also experienced this but I am not on Mavericks yet. I think it came with the most recent version of Safari regardless of OS version. The main place where I experienced this was on the safeway shopping site and I have to login to demo this. thus, I would have a hard time reporting this to Apple without giving them access to my account.
I wasn't sure if it was a Safari issue or something funky with that particdular site. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 04:28:14PM -0700, BlindMacMan wrote: > > > > > Thanks Tim! At least you confirmed the problem... I was thinking I was > > having a major brain freeze. I will forward my findings to > > accessibil...@apple.com and I will check out your (sometimes possible) work > > arounds. Lou/BlindMacMan > > > > On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:42:00 AM UTC-7, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi Lou, > > > > I can confirm your findings. Here?s what I do to get around this for now. > > > > 1. After activating a link in the first frame, press tab until you reach > > an item in the other frame. > > 2. If it is a link you wish to affect, press return after tabbing to it. > > > > This is where things get inconsistent. Sometimes, I can Interact with > > whatever I?ve tabbed to and then VO focus restores but not as often as I?d > > like. It appears that when using VO navigation, including the Item > > Chooser, most of the elements aren?t being noticed by VO. If you tab > > though, they are workable, but not really in a VO way. What I mean here, > > is that using VO commands makes it lose focus again whereas using OS > > commands like tab and return will perform the task. I?ve also noticed > > that, only sometimes, a Refresh of the page will help. > > > > So, overall, I probably have only confirmed your findings and only given > > you half-baked work-arounds. Hope it helped a little. > > > > Later? > > > > Tim Kilburn > > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > > > On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:17 AM, blind...@mac.com wrote: > > > > Hello! I maintain a website for a leather/levi social organization. The > > website has a menu contents frame at the left and the main frame where the > > content displays on the right. VoiceOver has never had a problem with this > > setup until I upgraded to OS 10.9. > > > > When I first load the page, VO sees both frames. After making a selection > > from the menu frame, VO only sees the menu frame and no longer sees the > > main frame.... Every once in awhile it will see it, but if I make another > > selection from the menu frame and try to return to it, it will not see it > > the second time. > > > > Changing between Group and DOM navigation has no effect. Enabling and > > disabling Live Regions also has no effect. > > > > Sighted people tell me that they have no problems using the website... The > > main frame is being populated with the correct information... The problem > > seems to be that VoiceOver forgets about the main frame (in other words, > > when turning the web rotor to Frames, the only frame listed is the menu > > frame). > > > > Do you have any ideas as to why this is happening under 10.9? Do you have > > any suggestions as to a work around? (I can still do my work, it is just > > difficult for me to proof without asking for sighted help, which I would > > like to avoid.) > > > > Thanks for any assistance you may provide! > > > > Lou/BlindMacMan. > > Golden Gate Guards > > GGG Web/Post Master. > > www.ggguards.org > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
