Hi Lee,
There are also some good Mac Tutorials on How To Be Blind.  Visit www.htb2.com 
and search for Mac tutorials.

As far as VO and key combinations,  bring up the commands help menu with VO-HH.

Take your time and don’t try to learn everything in a day.  Also, Apple has a 
tech support number which will put you in touch with support staff who are 
trained in using VoiceOver.  The number is: (877) 204-3930.

David Woodbridge did an excellent introductory tutorial on Mavericks. You can 
find it on the AppleVis website.  Search for Mavericks in Podcasts.

Hope this helps.

Janet
On Dec 4, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman <bubbygirl1...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> agh using a mac mini didn’t even think of the fn key.
> Cheers 
> Maria  
> 
> sent from mac mini 
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> skype bubbygirl1972  twitter same as skype without the numbers. 
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> On 5 Dec 2013, at 8:59 am, Deb Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Try pressing the FN key alont with control and option. You can change
>> the need for this in preferences later but by default you'll need to
>> press it on the lap top keyboard. so it's going to be
>> fn/control/option/F8 to start the VO utility.
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/4/13, Lee Jones <leejones...@sky.com> wrote:
>>> Dear List,I got my macbook air today. I hav found it a very tough learning
>>> curve. I can't get control option f8 to bring up the voice over utility no
>>> matter how many times I try,, a sighted person has also tried and it does
>>> not work.  Does the focus have to be somewhere special to make this work?How
>>> do you turn off the macbook do you use the on off button or is there a way
>>> in OSX itself, a shut down button?  Can Someone explain very simply the
>>> difference between the functions of control option and the arrow keys,
>>> control option command and the arrow keys,control option shift and the arrow
>>> keys because maybe I'm thick but I don't get it!
>>> is it possible to download voices without using the voice over utility?  I
>>> am suddenly not hating freedom scientific quite so much.
>>> 
>>> Many Thanks, Lee          -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Olivares
>>> Sent: 04 December 2013 15:18
>>> To: “Mac Visionaries“
>>> Subject: Re: Option Key Not Working
>>> 
>>> Nope it doesn't matter if keyboard commander is on or off.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2013, at 3:59 AM, "Red.Falcon" <velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> OK just a couple of ideas!
>>>> 1, do you have both option keys set to use with keyboard commander!
>>>> 2, Just try switching off keyboard commander with VO+shift+k and see if
>>>> the option key things like € • and others!
>>>> I've found if you need to use those items it is best to toggle on or off
>>>> keyboard commander when needed!
>>>> HTH Colin
>>>> 
>>>> On 4 Dec 2013, at 07:25, Brandon Olivares <programmer2...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> My option key works technically, as if I press ctrl-option-space it works
>>>>> just fine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, if I try to navigate by word with option left or right arrow, it
>>>>> doesn't work. The cursor just doesn't move and voiceover doesn't say
>>>>> anything. I can use command arrow to navigate, or just the arrow keys
>>>>> themselves, but not using option.
>>>>> 
>>>>> i also can't use it to enter special characters, like accents and such.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But it does work when I use it for keyboard commander to open certain
>>>>> applications. So it seems very selective about when it works or not. I
>>>>> don't understand why this is happening.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Brandon
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