Hi, The other thing I have noticed is if I don't want to read the email or interact with it using VO-J, I tap on the delete key quickly and I don't hear the number of emails total, unread mail, etc. This has worked well. I am getting better at this and thanks to you Robert, I love that VO-J command.
Eileen -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Carter Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: huge mail problems still Hi, Perhaps I am not in quite as much of a hurry as some people. For me, however, having the information read in the order that it is presented works well for me. I hear the subject a brief preview and whether or not the message is part of a thread. I listen to as little or as much of this information as needed with the goal of making a decision regarding whether or not I want to read more of the message or simply move on. This approach seems just perfect to me. Robert Carter Sent from my iPad > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Lisette Wesseling <lisettewessel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Nicholas, > Yes I get conversation thread information announced last too, but it has stopped bothering me. If I want to know if something is a conversation, I press right arrow. If it opens. it is a conversation, and if it doesn't open, it's not a conversation. > > Cheers > Lisette > . >> On 20/12/2013, at 5:33 pm, Nicholas Parsons <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The main problem for me with Mavericks Mail is that the read/unread status of messages, and the number of messages in the thread, are announced last by VoiceOver when navigating through the message list. This slows my progress significantly as I have to wait for VoiceOver to announce everything else before I get this important information. I'm interested in whether Robert and others have this issue too, as it seems to me like something that's not dependant on individual settings. >> >> My work around for this has been to turn the preview line off in the Viewing tab of Mail Preferences. This way I don't need to listen to the message read out before finding out whether it's read or unread, and how many messages there are in the thread. However, this is a real drawback to me as hearing the preview often allowed me to dismiss a message quickly without needing to open it first. >> >> For clarification, I've been doing this on a 2011 MacBook Air. I use Mail in standard view with threading turn on and the preview pane fully collapsed. I read through the list of messages by using the up and down arrows while VO focus is on the message list. I don't interact with the message list table and I do not have QuickNav turned on. To read a message, I use command-o to open it in a new window and then just use the arrow keys to read line by line etcetera (with, of course, QuickNav still turned off). >> >> Best, >> Nic >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
