Well what makes it even more irksome is for the Apple rep to claim it is not a 
gmail issue, and walk me through a ton of stuff that unfortunately didn’t fix 
anything, so after I was off the phone with Apple, I deleted my gmail account 
from mail, and mail worked perfectly fine. Not sure why Apple can’t just admit 
and be honest that there is still a gmail issue. 
On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:59 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Apple fixed the problems in Gmail for many of their Max. However, after the 
> Mavericks update was released, some users still reported email problems. So, 
> Apple continues trying to figure out what is going on. This is the nature of 
> programming and bugs.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 22 Jan 2014, at 6:59, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, that is what I thought. Hilarious as now I only get new mail upon 
>> quitting mail and restarting mail. Very frustrating, and I would have never 
>> upgraded to Mavericks if I knew the gmail issue was still such a problem, so 
>> yeah, I am pissed off at Apple for claiming they fixed the gmail problem. 
>> Very misleading, and I guess you just can’t trust anything you hear anymore.
>>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you delete mail from All Mail, you will delete everything that is in the 
>>> inbox, deleted, drafts, sent. So if you do not move or archive mail outside 
>>> the gmail account, its gone.
>>> 
>>> I use message filters (not using Mac Mail yet, still on Windows) but gmail 
>>> is gmail. Before I dump All Mail, I look at the sent folder to see what I 
>>> want to archive. Then I delete mail from All Mail which takes care of the 
>>> other mentioned folders. I do this weekly.
>>> 
>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
>>> The great majority of us are required to live a life of constant duplicity. 
>>>  Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the 
>>> opposite of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike, and 
>>> rejoice at what brings you nothing but misfortune.
>>> --Boris Pasternak
>>> Robert & Dreamer Doll  ke7nwn
>>> E-mail-
>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>>> On 1/21/2014 7:15 AM, Brian Fischler wrote:
>>>> Hey Nicholas,
>>>> 
>>>> Bingo I think you hit the problem right on the head, as I just looked at 
>>>> this all mail folder and there are 96,000 messages in it. What the heck is 
>>>> this folder, as I looked and there are emails I deleted years ago. Is 
>>>> there a way to manage this folder in any settings or get some sighted 
>>>> assistance to purge some mail on the gmail website. Where do I find the 
>>>> activity menu to see what mail is doing? Will explore around for it, but 
>>>> not sure where it is. Thanks,
>>>>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>>>> <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Bryan,
>>>>> 
>>>>> First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? 
>>>>> Meaning in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or 
>>>>> hundreds of thousands, then I think I know what the problem is.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There 
>>>>> seems to be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the 
>>>>> tech community seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what 
>>>>> I think is happening is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and 
>>>>> reconfigure every message you have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of 
>>>>> messages, easily in the tens of thousands, and some people even have 
>>>>> hundreds of thousands. So when you launch Mail after recently installing 
>>>>> Mavericks, if you show the activity window with command-option-0, you'll 
>>>>> notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server and checking and 
>>>>> downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small account this 
>>>>> can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but nothing 
>>>>> else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and running. 
>>>>> So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other online 
>>>>> services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave 
>>> your Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave 
>>> it, and don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure 
>>> your energy preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail 
>>> activity every few hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to 
>>> have frozen, quit it and re-launch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best of luck,
>>>>> Nic
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with 
>>>>>> Gmail and Macmail. After  a day and a half of everything working fine, I 
>>>>>> had my busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their 
>>>>>> VoiceOver people and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail 
>>>>>> and mac mail problem. I connected via remote session with Apple, and the 
>>>>>> specialist was claiming my issue was caused by my other mail account 
>>>>>> from go daddy. It took us a good hour to check settings, and mail was 
>>>>>> constantly caught in a busy loop, after that did nothing, I did a system 
>>>>>> repair which Apple felt would fix the mail busy issue. I am not going to 
>>>>>> go in to the bad set of instructions that Apple gave me for a VoiceOVer 
>>>>>> user to do a repair. So the repair finally finishes and as soon as I 
>>>>>> launch mail, busy busy busy. I decided to delete my gmail account from 
>>>>>> mail to see if mail worked with just my go daddy account, and sure 
>>>>>> enough mail worked fine, so bingo it is definitely a gmail problem. What 
>>>>>> an
>>> gers me so much is Apple’s claim that the fix they released in December 
>>> fixed the gmail and mac mail issue. The whole reason I held off upgrading 
>>> to Mavericks was because of the gmail issue. Not sure how they can claim 
>>> the issue is fixed when it is obviously gmail causing my problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do have a ton of email in gmail that I keep saved in folders, but this 
>>>>>> was never an issue with gmail and Lion. Does anyone have any 
>>>>>> suggestions? I deleted all my trash in mac mail, and this did nothing 
>>>>>> either. Anyone who has gone through something like this and figured out 
>>>>>> a fix would love to hear it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for listening.
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