It is usually something that the user has little interaction with as it unlocks with their login password. Basically, it encrypts and keeps all of your secure data in one place. Things like login passwords for your mail accounts or internet accounts, WiFi passwords, etc, are kept by your keychain.
Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ok now that I am back home, I am going to tackle this again. > > I dont recall setting a keychain password so this part confused me today > and I should not have rushed into resetting the login password. > > So I need to understand this. What is the keychain for, and is it the same > thing as the iCloud keychain on the iPhone? > > One of the options I saw earlier was to create a new keychain. I take it > that is what I want since I dont remember setting one before. > > And hopefully, once I am done with this,, I can get to work. :) > > Quote of the nanosecond . . . > Good girls go to heaven, bad girls go everywhere. > --Mae West > Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn > E-mail- > gone.to.da...@gmail.com > > On 2/15/2014 9:23 AM, John Panarese wrote: >> You should have gotten a dialog to sync your new password to your >> keychain. This is so you never have to think about unlocking your keychain. >> >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >> >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >> On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes that is where I am now. Entered new password, now it wants a new >>> keychain password. Will have to put this on hold for a while. Need coffee. >>> :) >>> >>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>> Wouldn't you know it....Brain cells come and brain cells go, but >>> FAT cells live forever. >>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn >>> E-mail- >>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>> >>> On 2/15/2014 9:07 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>> Is it the login window? You might have to enter your password or there >>>> might be a dialog telling you about your keychain password needing to >>>> reset. Do you have VoiceOver speech? >>>> >>>> >>>> Take Care >>>> >>>> John D. Panarese >>>> Director >>>> Mac for the Blind >>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>> >>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>> >>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>> >>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Here is where I am now. I found Terminal and did the password reset. >>>>> There was something else about ACLs I probably should have left alone. >>>>> >>>>> Now when the Mac boots, my user account name is on the screen and sits >>>>> there.I cannot go any further. >>>>> >>>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>>>> Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of >>>>> arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but >>>>> rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries >>>>> in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and >>>>> screaming "WOO HOO - what a ride!" >>>>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn >>>>> E-mail- >>>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> On 2/15/2014 8:45 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>> I don't think you have to click on it. I think it's chosen by >>>>>> default if you are the only user. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Take Care >>>>>> >>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>> Director >>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>> >>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>> >>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>> >>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well I am now sitting at the login screen, with my user account and I >>>>>>> do not know how to click on it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>>>>>> They're g-r-r-r-eat! >>>>>>> --Kellog's Frosted Flakes >>>>>>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn >>>>>>> E-mail- >>>>>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2/15/2014 8:25 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>>>> It's been a while, Robert. Sorry about that if it was the wrong >>>>>>>> info. I don't even have a Mountain Lion recovery disk I can look at >>>>>>>> either at this point to check out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Had done that earlier nbuit went back again. I did not see a 2nd >>>>>>>>> Utilities menu but when I opened the OS X Utilities and clicked the >>>>>>>>> Shoiw All option, I saw a 2nd one. And there it is! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But braim fried so will give it a rest for a day. Will let you know >>>>>>>>> when I get that darn password reset. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>>>>>>>> If the professor on Gilligan's Island can make a radio out of a >>>>>>>>> coconut, why can't he fix a hole in a boat? >>>>>>>>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn >>>>>>>>> E-mail- >>>>>>>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2/14/2014 9:31 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Try doing a VO-m when the recovery HD comes up. There should be >>>>>>>>>> a Utilities menu. If you go down it, you'll find, Terminal, there. >>>>>>>>>> Let me know if I misunderstood you though. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi John, >>>>>>>>>>> Its not my day. When I boot into recovery, the OS X Utility menu >>>>>>>>>>> comes up. I see no Terminzl option there. Am I in the right menu? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>>>>>>>>>> You only live once, but if you work it right, once is enough. >>>>>>>>>>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn >>>>>>>>>>> E-mail- >>>>>>>>>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/14/2014 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's accessible. You have to boot into your Recovery HD >>>>>>>>>>>> by holding down command-r during startup. Then, start VoiceOver >>>>>>>>>>>> after about 30 seconds with command-F5. >>>>>>>>>>>>> From the Utility menu, you will find an option for, Terminal. >>>>>>>>>>>>> VO-space on that and type, >>>>>>>>>>>> resetpassword >>>>>>>>>>>> and hit enter. >>>>>>>>>>>> This will put you into an interface that will allow you to reset >>>>>>>>>>>> your account password. It's important to note that once you do >>>>>>>>>>>> this and restart the computer, you will be asked if you want to >>>>>>>>>>>> sync your keychain password to your account password. Be sure to >>>>>>>>>>>> do this. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi John, >>>>>>>>>>>>> I know I am going to have to do this before I can really move >>>>>>>>>>>>> forward. Is the reset process accessible with Voiceover? I found >>>>>>>>>>>>> some info on how to do this but not when using Voiceover. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>>>>>>>>>>>> A mistake is to commit a misunderstanding. >>>>>>>>>>>>> --Bob Dylan >>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn >>>>>>>>>>>>> E-mail- >>>>>>>>>>>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/14/2014 6:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install >>>>>>>>>>>>>> apps without knowing the password for your account. You can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too vague. Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attemtps? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A smile is the same in any language. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E-mail- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be asked this the first time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will remember that one once I get past an issue that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumps me. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am asked for the computer password. Is that the same as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> login password? I never entered that as far as I can recall. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am really lost and am gonna take a break from it. LOL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oxymoron: Original copy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E-mail- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/13/2014 5:32 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser window in Finder is to use control-option-j. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically interacts for you and saves you steps. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Robert C >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window. Been a Windows user for too many years. 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