On sob 10 lis 2012 14:03:30 CET, Andre Klapper <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 11:36 +0100, [email protected] wrote:
> > Now, even simply writing, that practice of candidating to Council and
> > asking "people, don't vote for me" (instead of revoking own candidacy
> > - to support creating Council, that shouldn't exist, due to lack of
> > interest) is making jokes of democracy, result in being assigned ban
> > on TMO.
>
> I have no idea what you're talking about (who got banned for what, who
> said "Don't vote for me" etc.) as you keep things intentionally vague,
> plus I don't have time to read every single thread on TMO or such.
ivgalvez was candidating for Council and Board at the same time, yet, he asked
- in TMO thread about Council - to not vote for him. At the same time, he
refused to revoke his candidacy, as it would result in too low ammount of
candidates to form Council.
I was temporaly banned from TMO, due to my post, where I stated, that in my
*personal* opinion, acting like that is "lack of reaspect for other
candidates", and that, again, in my opinion, he should decide if he want to be
elected or not (by staying in election or revoking candidacy), as "you can't be
pregnant and virgin at the same time".
Above quotations are "strongest" language from post, that was excuse for ban.
Of course, it never contained any profanities, etc. Ban got extended to
6.12.2012 (maybe have something to do with santa claus...), just because I've
asked moderator - via PM - which rules got broken, by *only* possible way of
communication with them (PM).
---
I don't want those discussion to focus on this sole situation - I'm OK with
thia decision (even if it's extremely inapproriate and, honestly, plain
stupid), and, frankly, I couldn't care less for moderation standards on TMO,
that is dying anyway.
I'm rather worried about whole change of "climate" around Maemo. Even of
darkest days of Nokia's lack of cooperation, where people were hanging dogs on
Nokia (many times, without actual merit), "rulers" were not so alergic to
critic. Also, there were not so much hostility for different opinions.
Just look at those "kindergarden" ideas by zogg (sounds like some re-education
ideas from chinese regime), or overall level of agression, when
not-co-comforting questions are asked.
Are we really so weak, that we need to be afraid of *any* interfnal critic? It
isn't matter of personal like/dislike for me, or anyone else (and I couldn't
care less for being "liked", anyway...). It isn't even matter of me being right
or not - I always keep in mind, that I may be completely wrong.
It's problem of reactions. It seems that nowadays, anybody who kisn't
sugar-coating or "rulers" pupil (looking at you, zogg), must be ready for
extreme (as for Maemo) ammount of hostility, and risk of "repressions" from
wanna-be regime. Heck, even here, some miserable people would like to ban from
mailing list, just because this discussion here...
> But keeping things vague and questioning decisions again and again after
> they have been made is definitely a good way to drag people into endless
> (and useless?) discussions. Cheers!
>
> andre
> --
> Andre Klapper | Bugmaster
> http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
You're right, and I feel my fault for this unnecessary discussion. I would like
to end it here - after all, it started as simple (two lines) question to the
Board, inspired by welcome letter... Which got ignored by people, that got
asked, anyway (not suprisingly, many people who were *not* asked, decided that
their input is absolutely necessary and unavoidable).
/Estel
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