No one was against Estel before, some of his behavior recently has turned people against him.
Again this is a time when we need to stick together to ensure the survival of tmo and it's future. I personally think Estel can help out a lot, he just needs to stop fighting with us and help out or stay out of the way. I don't think anyone that doesn't see eye to eye with Estel is asking for more. Please anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong. To obtain something of equal value must be lost... On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Marcin Mielniczuk <[email protected]> wrote: > None of you is the good one here, to be honest. > > I agree with Arie, that Estel shouldn't compare this to genocide. You can > compare this to some other political things ("everyone votes for <insert the > politician name>, so there must be a reason why") but this one was indeed > disrespectful to the victims. And if he uses iPhone, don't blow him away (not > literally of course :) ) > > But this way "everyone's against Estel, so there must be a reason" is a way > to get manipulated. Let's suppose that there's a conspiracy against Estel (or > change Estel to whatever name you want - maybe your best friend). "Everyone" > of music industry was to support ACTA. Did it make ACTA good? > > EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES. The most important is to stop doing the mistake as > soon as possible. Including mods, including Estel, including you, including > me. > -- > Marcin > > > > 2012/11/15 Arie Mark <[email protected]> > How do you get off comparing comments on a mailing list to genocide? I come > from a third world country. I have seen people killed in front of me, in the > name of genocide. When you are in the same position you can make comments > about genocide. Until then never mention it in regards to me again. The fact > you make such an off-handed comment so childishly makes you of all people > look foolish. > > You have dishonored anyone that has ever been killed in a genocide. > > Estel, you have made great contributions to maemo in your time here. I liked > you for the longest time. You have single handedly managed to turn everyone > against you, why? Doesn't this bother you? I am shocked and confused that you > don't seem to get it. If you had one or two people against you fine, but it > seems every one for the most part is. > > At a time when we need to work together to ensure tmo is transitioned > properly, you are busy arguing aimlessly with the very people that are trying > to keep it alive. Am I missing something here? Do you want tmo to die down? > If so please make it clear now. > > Open source isn't perfect and everyone here is a volunteer, but everyone is > trying to make ends meet and you are slowing that progress down. Have you > asked yourself why? It's not even clear what you want? What do you really > want from tmo and all this fighting? > > Take a step back and see what someone else is saying. I personally want you > to stay, but I don't like this combative attitude that you have brought about > in tmo members at a time when we need to work together as much as possible to > ensure success. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 15, 2012, at 4:59 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> While I couldn't care less for arie's insignificant opinion about me, his >> reasoning deserve small off-topic: >> >> Off-topic: >> >> On śro 14 lis 2012 17:53:18 CET, Arie Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Who cares, this is a waste of time. If so many people are against Estel >> > old and new, there must be a reason. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> >> Sure, behavior of a real grown-up. I'm pretty certain, that same >> argumentation went in mind of 90% Hutu, when they have commited 1994' >> genocide in Rwanda. "If so many people hate Tutsi and murder them, it must >> be their fault!" >> >> Such mindless sheep's behavior is root of many problems, both insignificant, >> as some random loser running out of arguments and writing "who cares, it's a >> waste of time, if so many people...", and big, extremely huge tragedies, >> like mentioned Rwanda, or many other mass genocides in history. >> >> Think of it, when you send another message "from your iphone", mr. ISheep. >> [/off-topic] >> >> /Estel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> maemo-community mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community > > _______________________________________________ > maemo-community mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community > > > _______________________________________________ > maemo-community mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
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