Hi, I think there are two different cases here. Shawn and other developers who want to run their apps on Maemo/770 are of course welcome to do so and should get a welcome with some pointers to how they can do so most easily. I agree with Mikael that Shawn's questions wheren't really out of place or very advocative. Shawn have a big pool of Qt-based apps and he wants to port them over to Maemo and the 770 as cheaply as possible, nothing wrong with that. Wether keep using Qt is viable is another question, but we should give him technical reasons (and some of the mails did so) for why it might be a less than ideal solution for Maemo systems. Shawn have had a history of being rather strong worded on the issue himself, but his original mail to this list did not in my opinion warrant the replies he got.
The other case, which I agree is out of place, is when people do Qt advocacy on this list, that is just an irritant and non-productive. Christian On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 03:21 -0700, Justin Bradford wrote: > On 7/26/05, Mikael Hallendal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The only ones who brought up a QT/Qtopia vs. GTK/Hildon flamewar here > > was the supporters of the latter. > > You apparently haven't read any of Lorn Potter's emails to the list... > > > 1) Has anyone looked in to the shortest-possible route of having a > > QT-based application running on the 770. > > There has been some productive discussion regarding the significant > development necessary to get QT based apps running "natively" on the > maemo platform. Basically, these issues are supporting gtk/hildon > widgets (or at least themes) and osso/dbus support. > > > 2) If someone from Nokia could contact him for possible business to > > business communication on how to make the Komanpanys applications to > > run on the 770. > > I think this is really the problem. In theory, this email list is > about the maemo platform, not various how to work around the the > non-proprietary architecture Nokia has chosen for the 770. Perhaps > those Nokia employees looking in might consider proferring a > commercial app email address to contact rather than everyone just > settling on the maemo dev lists. > > > The Maemo platform is X/GTK+ based, I don't see that changing, why need to > > defend > > it when it's not even being attacked. > > Perhaps because actual and potential maemo open source developers are > sick of hearing about how it should really be a QT/e based platform. > What exactly is better about that approach, besides, of course, that > Trolltech gets $$$ for any commercial developer that decides to > consider the platform. Why would Nokia choose a QT based system when > they actually want commercial developers? > > And, as it it is a flamewar and all, perhaps the unpleasantness is > just the consequence of general nausea at the prospect of having to > pay some random company for the mere privilege of developing > commercial applications for a platform. > > For what it's worth, this is the first Linux-based handheld/"embedded" > device I was interested in developing for, largely because it was the > first device that didn't use QT. > > Sure a QT license is a trivial percentage of the cost of commercial > development, but I refuse to consider a platform that *requires* QT on > simple principle. And this is being written on a laptop running > Windows. And moreover, a laptop running Windows with well over $2000 > of Windows development software on it. But if I wanted, developing > commercial apps for Windows or MacOS (which I do), could cost nothing > more than that needed for testing. But developing for KDE still > requires an unvoidable tithe to Trolltech. Any platform that has a > core, fundamental library under the GPL license should be shunned, > whether RMS is pleased or not. > > And the sheer arrogance of Trolltech and their positioning of QT makes > me wish that that company (and their employees who decided on this > course of action) will rot in hell for eternity. There is no company > in the world I would rather see sink into bankruptcy and oblivion more > than Trolltech. They have done incalcuable damage to the state of the > Linux desktop. > > If you want a QT or qtopia based application to run natively and > seamlessly on the 770, just port it to gtk/hildon/osso. An extra > upside: you can stop (or avoid) paying royalties to some > inconsequential company if you don't feel inclined to. > > Justin > _______________________________________________ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller Business Development Manager Fluendo S.L. Mobile Phone: +34 678093464 Office Phone: +34 933175153 Fax : +34 936002310 _______________________________________________ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
