On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 17:40, Felipe Crochik <fel...@crochik.com> wrote:
>
> Is there a way to find out how many times each application was downloaded
> from extras-devel? It would be a valuable tool to help access if the
> applications are being used (and/or are useful) and decide on how to
> invest on each one.

Not sure - there is once you get to Extras; click "Download
Statistics" on the http://maemo.org/downloads/ page.

> For one application to move out of testing it has to get votes and good
> karma, right?

For an application to move out of Extras-testing it has:

  * To spend at least 10 days in Extras-testing
  * Receive 10 thumbs up
  * Have the maintainer click the "Promote package" button.

> For someone to vote they have had to install the application
> from the extras-devel already and because of this don’t exactly have
> any major motivation/urgency to want to push the application to
> move to extras.

For someone to vote they have to (or rather, should) install the
application from Extras-testing. They should then compare the
application against the QA rules and vote accordingly:

    http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing/QA_Checklist

The motivation for the tester is:

  * Altruism - more good apps get to people who aren't willing
    to test.
  * Karma - rating apps and leaving comments earns karma which
    has, in the past, translated to discounted devices and
    sponsored travel & accommodation to the summit.
  * Early access - they get to use apps which may not be ready for
    the masses.

However, it's not all positives - they really take on two other facts:

  * Stability - it's a testing repo. Things may break. Things
    may break horribly.
  * Voting - it's effectively a covenant that if you're using
    Extras-testing you're saying you're willing to test & vote.

> On the top of that it is not very obvious, at least wasn’t for me, how to
> vote – especially because once you get the page you don’t see the vote
> button until you login.

Specific suggestions for improving the UI are always welcome. X-Fade's
admitted he's not a web designer. CSS, HTML or even mockups of
improved UIs are VERY welcome.

> I assume, as it is, we mostly depend on other developers to test
> and vote for the applications on testing or is there any other
> driving force?

There is a Testing Squad of volunteers, and a subset of those are
shortly to become Super-Testers who can, after a longer time period,
move the package over the threshold with a smaller number of "super"
votes.

    http://wiki.maemo.org/Testing_Squad

Hope that helps,

Andrew

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Andrew Flegg -- mailto:and...@bleb.org  |  http://www.bleb.org/
Maemo Community Council chair
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