On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 23:42 +0000, ext Neil MacLeod wrote:
[snip]
> Sadly I don't have the skills/knowledge. I wouldn't know where to start! The 
> problem highlighted by bug #959 is probably rooted deep in the bowels of the 
> (non-open source) power management, and I don't even know if the Display 
> applet is open sourced.

No, the power management _is_ open source, since it's basically all in
the kernel. What is not included in the kernel is just the
inactivity_timeout_expired => blank screen
action, and nothing else.

There is this myth about hidden power management. Well, there isn't any.
The mantra of power management is:

"All the resources belong to the system and have to be kept busy for as
short as possible, and only when it's really necessary."

Therefore it _has_ to be inkernel because of the shorter latencies.
Of course every application/library must be power management friendly,
but again, it's not hidden stuff. Check the thread about battery life: i
gave detailed explanation about it.
> 
> As for the "cover-on" functionality discussed in bug #943, I'm looking for 
> ideas that could be implemented - again I don't have the skills to implement 
> these ideas, I'm just a humble end user that doesn't fit in with the Nokia 
> "always on" philosophy (well actually, my employer doesn't agree with the 
> Nokia stance either!) A number of end users also disagree about the inability 
> to rapidly put the N800 into a 770-type "cover-on" state - Nokia really have 
> goofed here. :(
> 
> > Then it will be probably easier to have your request satisfied.
> > 
> > In the worst case i can assure you that you'll have at least one user
> > (me =) for the patch.
> > 
> 
> Trust me, we're not alone - there are many who have complained (if only were 
> voting were enabled against N800 bugs in Bugzilla we may even have some stats 
> to back that up!)
I guess it will be soon, I see no reason why it shouldn't. Unfortunately we 
don't have infinite manpower.

> Unfortunately I won't be able to submit patches for these two bugs, but if 
> they're not addressed in future firmware - particularly the lack of a 
> cover-on shortcut, bug #943 - then I think I will have to begin questioning 
> the motives and outlook of Nokia when it so clearly flies in the face of 
> their customers.
Again, it's a matter of prioritising; everybody who takes the hassle of
submitting a bug thinks that it's important. And probably it is.

Then somebody else has to decide what has to be fixed first. It doesn't
happen only to external bugs, even for us internally, one files a bug
and finally gets it fixed after a month or so because something else had
higher priority.

-- 
Cheers, Igor

Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(Nokia M - OSSO /Helsinki Finland)
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