On 13 October 2010 15:34, Olivier Méjean <omej...@yahoo.fr> wrote: > Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 10:19:17, Buchan Milne a écrit : >> On Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:52:58 Tux99 wrote: >> > Quote: marc wrote on Tue, 12 October 2010 18:42 >> > >> > > Unfortunately, if this is done, I will no longer be able to install >> > > legally any Mageia due to our laws. I think it is best if these are not >> > > >> > > installed but let users know where to get them, mostly through PLF. >> > >> > How do you expect Mageia to verify each single package to make sure it >> > complies with the laws in ALL countries of the world? >> >> So, because we can't comply with all laws in all coutnries, we should >> violate everyone we possibly can? > > Because we can't be aware of all laws in all countries, we should do nothing ? > (after all that's the best way to break no law at all !) > >> >> > Mageia should make sure that the packages comply with French law, but >> > that's it. >> >> If Mageia wants mirrors in countries with strong IP protection laws >> (including copyright, software patent) and anti-circumvention laws, then >> IMHO, there does need to be a split, so mirror maintainers can decide >> which risks they can accept. >> >> For example, in the DMCA case, I believe US mirrors hosting libdvdcss could >> be vulnerable. > > There are mirrors of plf in USA, there is at least one mirror of ArchLinux in > USA that provides libdvdcss, there is at least one mirror of Linux Mint in the > USA that provides libdvdcss, there is PCLinuxOS based in USA (Texas ?) that > provides libdvdcss > > VLC is available in USA to download (cnet.com) and VLC provides its own lib > for decoding (and coding) multimedia files (and from what i know, windows > binaries come with libdvdcss) >
There's a difference between "they can't be sued out of their homes" and "they can be sued, just no one's done it yet". As with any legal issues, it's always a CYA situation. >> >> > You can still install Mageia and then remove the packages that are >> > problematic in your country, I very much doubt your laws are that >> > draconian that you can't even do that. >> > Mageia could include an option during install to exclude the well-known >> > problematic packages from installation to make this easier for people >> > that live in countries with restrictive laws. >> > >> > > When I install Mandriva Free for people, I will let them know where the >> > > >> > > PLF repos are and the files needed and they install these themselves. >> > >> > This is a major hassle for new/inexperienced users and IMHO should be >> > avoided. >> >> Maybe it can be improved *to some extent*, by asking the user if they want >> to add additional repositories. > > We cannot ask users to add third-part repos. We have discussing about Mageia > repos, policies of third-part repos should not be in our discussion. > If we want to ask users to add 3rd party repos, then 3rd party repos are already a part of this discussion. -- Ahmad Samir
