On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 17:45, Michael Scherer <m...@zarb.org> wrote: > But my issue is not about non-free firmwares and those who use them or > not, but about the gradual move to non-free packages on the free dvd iso > ( http://netsplit.com/2006/11/27/slippery-slopes/ ). > > When I started at Mandrake Linux, there was no non-free repository. Then > one day, non-free was created, and then soon, it was activated by > default for the free version. Then I opened this bug, > https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=40033 , who took 2 years to be > fixed. And what I just see is yet another push to bury a little bit more > values I care.
Please be more explicit about the values here then. So far I don't see no push. We're discussing this. Speaking of values, is this going against the project values and announcement so far? (even in a slippery way) Obviously, the very imperfect nature of free/non-free semantics does not help at all here. Summary (from http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy): * core: stuff that is not Free/Open Source according to OSI/FSF does not belong here. Not even closed-source stuff that we can redistribute. So if there is at this time, that's something to fix. * nonfree: what does not qualify for core that we can still redistribute; includes closed-source, proprietary, binaries and blobs. * tainted: what could be in core or nonfree but bears more risks (software patents, most likely for now). Now, for what we distribute in printed medias (DVD/CD for now), the initial point was to provide some necessary bits from nonfree along with core so that a local install can work with some specific hardware (network, video). That does not prevent from shipping CD/DVD that only bear core on it I believe? (what we used to do with Free at MDV). And that does not prevent from shipping too CD/DVD that bears more than that (stuff located in nonfree), to ease setup for some users (or even make a LiveCD usable). Is there a problem here? which one? Romain