----- "andre999" <and...@laposte.net> wrote: > Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : > > > > 2011/3/24 Olivier Blin<mag...@blino.org>: > >> Thorsten van Lil<tv...@gmx.de> writes: > >> > >>> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath: > >>>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir<ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com>: > >>>>> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan<dmorga...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad > Samir<ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free > firmware? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non free" dvd > iso, > >>>>>> and this question is i think interesting. > >>>>>> > >>>> A possible solution for people with such a setup could be a > non-free > >>>> "driver cd ISO" which they could include in the installation > process. > >>>> > >>> > >>> What about a DVD including non-free packages but has the option to > not > >>> install them? > >>> I think the majority of the users don't care that much about > >>> proprietary issues, they just need them for using there wireless > card > >>> or graphic card. Those how do care can just uncheck the non-free > part > >>> of the DVD. :) > >> > >> Yep, it could just be an option. The desktop selection step seems > to be a > >> good place in the installer to include it, it is visible enough, > and > >> right before packages installation. Though it would have to be > renamed. > >> > >> We could have a checkbox "Install proprietary drivers if needed > >> (non-free software)", ticked by default. > > perfect solution :)
Maybe for you. Maybe for me. But, the *real* question is, would this discourage some of our target market from using our distribution. IOW, we *must* get community input (after documenting some proposals). > > Are you aware that this would mean that Mageia is not a "free > > distribution" as planned? No matter how you phrase the question and > > how many checkboxes a user would have to check, if non-free > contents > > is included in an ISO it is not a free ISO anymore. > > Mageia the distribution includes non-free software. We are talking > about what we include on the ISO. > If users want to exclude installing any non-free packages, this > check-box solution solves the problem nicely. Depends on what guidelines you follow. E.g., some might say there shouldn't be a checkbox at all. Some might say the checkbox should be disabled by default. Some might say that there should be no non-free software on the default media. > So users that want to ensure that their installation works "out of the > > box" will be satisfied. > And purists that don't mind some things not working, can avoid > installing non-free drivers. "Can avoid" and "guaranteed to never occur" are not the same, and some users may want the latter. > Sounds like a win-win solution to me :) But, again, this is subjective, you are presenting your preference, and yours may not be the only one we should cater to. Regards, Buchan