Op dinsdag 23 augustus 2011 10:47:18 schreef Colin Guthrie: > 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 22/08/11 22:39 did gyre and gimble: > > imho, the tools that are now available don't really work well together, > > ie: if you use multiple of those tools, likely they don't show correct > > status, etc... > > So combining home-grown solutions with those integrated into the DEs > (both GNOME and KDE are integrating with NM in a more complete way these > days) is a way to solve this problem? I don't think so personally. I > think we should very much embrace what the common consensus on other > distros is and stop living in a little bubble. I appreciate the quality > of the tools developed in the past but without someone really pushing > them they are just going to stagnate. It's a real shame as these tools > were best of bread - really easy to use and looked good, but this has > changed now. NM is much nicer to use these days and has been properly > integrated into the DEs.
well, imho, the last time i tried NM it didn't work and net_applet did. > > personally, i've used net_applet always and i would like to keep this. > > Sure, if it's patched to integrate into GNOME shell as nicely as NM then > I'd say it's an option. If it provides the same DBus interfaces that NM > does (or will) support such that applications can tell what type of > connection you are on (i.e. to enable features such as not downloading > package updates on your expensive, metered 3G connection) then it's > certainly possible to continue to support an alternative to NM. Who is > actually going to do that work tho'? Considering the bug about breaking > your wifi configuration (using WEP rather than the configured WPA2) has > not been fixed[1] since before mga1 was out, I'm not confident that > anyone is even looking into the actual bugs here let alone adding new > features. I feel we have to be some what practical about resources here > and if we are going to work on features do it in a way that benefits the > wider community - i.e. by contributing to NM, not just playing catch up. i don't care about gnome shell or gnome 3 or whichever. for me net_applet is the best one yet and i don't have this WPA2 bug that you seem to speak of. also, i need the openvpn functionalities of the net_applet. as long as NM doesn't provide everything and is welltested, i'm not sure it should replace something that's been very long working like the net_applet. allthough i'm sure net_applet could be improved, sure. personally i'd like an applet that shows up multiple times for each connection one with a different icon, so it's nicely visible and you can shut down whichever you want. > Col > > 1. https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263 I had to manually edit > wpa_supplicant.conf several times when at the Desktop Summit and WLAN > hopping after using the GUI - it's not exactly a shining example of good > integration. yes, but i'm using several different WPA2 connections, and i configured them once and now if i'm at that particular location, it works...