2012/1/11 Marja van Waes <marj...@xs4all.nl>: > On 03/01/12 10:09, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: >> >> 2012/1/3 Michael Scherer<m...@zarb.org>: >>> >>> Le lundi 02 janvier 2012 à 22:17 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : >>>> >>>> Op maandag 02 januari 2012 21:40:31 schreef Michael Scherer: >>>>> >>>>> Le lundi 02 janvier 2012 à 19:41 +0100, Marja van Waes a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> Can someone please help to fix bug 1956? >>>>>> >>>>>> You don't need to be a regular forum visitor. >>>>>> >>>>>> We need someone to find and implement a probably existing MOD, needed >>>>>> to keep forum posts history when unlimited edit time is enabled >>>>>> >>>>>> From wobo's comment #32: >>>>>> Capabilities needed: >>>>>> Well, one could say that anybody who >>>>>> >>>>>> - knows how to run phpBB as admin and >>>>>> - has seen a line of php >>>>>> - knows how to edit code (respecting tags and such) >>>>>> - knows how to cut&paste >>>>>> >>>>>> should be able to install an existing MOD (if I'm not mistaken there >>>>>> is >>>>>> one or more). >>>>>> >>>>>> I know next to nothing about php coding. But I've been running a phpBB >>>>>> forum for a couple of years and successfully implemented some MODs in >>>>>> phpBB2 and phpBB3. With no help (except the phpBB-forum in case of >>>>>> problems). >>>>>> >>>>>> In practice you have a detailed installation README for each MOD. Like >>>>>> >>>>>> - open file /foo/bar/doo.php >>>>>> - Find the line which starts with '......' >>>>>> - After that add >>>>>> - "........." >>>>>> >>>>>> And more such step-by-step guidance >>>>> >>>>> My eyes start to bleed dues to such "guidances". >>>> >>>> i'm sure misc means to say that we should have all our changes in >>>> packages/puppet config so that we can update without issues. and with >>>> file >>>> edits, that's a whole different thing. >>> >>> I was more thinking of proper patchs or better, proper modules, with >>> files to deploy in a well know directory . >> >> I only gave a part of an example. MODs are made as enhancement to the >> standard software. The easiest MOD is like Michael wrote: "a module >> with files to deploy in a well known directory". But in most cases >> they consist of files to copy into various directories of the program >> tree and changes to existing files of the software. There are other >> MODs which can be implemented automatically - which is far worse IMHO. >> This is where a modded phpBB3 could turn into a nightmare to maintain >> - believe me, I've been there :( >> >> Of course no developper of a MOD could know what somebody has already >> done to the standard files, so it's not possible do use only patches. >> And it could be (and that happens quite often) that a MOD is not >> compatible to your already "modificated" forum software (destroys >> other modifications or whatever). >> >> IMHO the best way in this case here would be a mod written for our >> setup, all changes well defined to make it maintainable in a proper >> way. Saying this I beg to think again whether the issue justifies all >> the time and work. >> > It would make me very, very happy, does that count a little? If I were sure > that I'd be able to learn how to do it, I would now consider to halve the > time I use for the Bug Squad and Doc Team and start learning.
Why? IMHO this complete issue is going out of proportions. Let's remember why we *seem to need* this MOD in the first place. And what will we find? The time-to-edit discussion, again. In the council meeting where it was decided to have this mod It looked as the best way to please a disturbing minority request, the more as that same minority gave the impression that such a MOD could be implemented within a reasonable time span. As we see now after 8 months, this was never the case. Adding the fact that a test period of several months with a much looser time-to-edit setting in the German Mageia forum showed not one single case of misuse brings me to the conviction that we should rather rethink the time-to-edit limitation itself than to waste manpower on this issue. Manpower which is needed at more important tasks, if I may say. -- wobo