The structure of packages as they are offered in the installer tries somehow to address this issue. The affiliation of packages to groups and sub-groups has been changed serveral times - an evident indication that the need to change has already been perceived.

The problem with the existing concept is that it is part of the installer and is not flexible enough, and that the primary criterium for attributing packages to a group appears to be a "how to sort" question - not the question how to make things easy for a user with a given profile whose background is not that of a "package-picker".

I think that the non-package-picker issue is important. All who participate in this discussion have a long trained Linux mentality and just relish having tens of different approaches to select from. Talking about hooking new users means talking to people who have a different education (I agree, they are doomed to end up being Linux-minded - but at the moment they discover Linux they are not). That indicates: approaches like lists of proposed programs are only second-best.

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