Le 19/12/2010 02:29, Michael scherer a écrit :
And the fact is that you are expressing exactly the sterotype that I
think we should
avoid because it would hurt our reputation, ie seeing us mainly as "Mandriva
users"
despites having no data, that's just a supposition ( likely true, but yet
unproven ).
If we start to act this way and see ourselves as Mandriva users, then others
people
outside of the community will see us like this too. And when we will start to
speak
of Mageia, they will only remember "oh, but they are mandriva users".
Because the image you have of your community is the one you send to others.
So if we want to be seen as something else than Mandriva users, if we really
want
our independance, we need to act accordingly. And the sooner we start, the
sooner
it will have a impact, and so the better it is.
You know, changes mind take time.
People still talk to me of mandrake, 5 years after the distribution changed
name. So if we want to be seen as different, I see no reason to not start now.
And we need to be seen as different, because we need to overcome Mandriva bad
reputation ( like this update, for example, or the general bad mood due
to various budget cut etc ). The question is not if the reputation is deserved
or not ( because I think it is not, at least not for everything ). But the
fact is it exist, and that I think we want to avoid it.
Unfortunately, everyone can still see the same names/nicknames on
Mandriva ML and Mageia ML, and everywhere, long after Mageia birth . So
it seems that your wishes don't fit with reality.