I perfectly agree with what you say, and I agree that this list is suffering from an excessive amount of messages.

Formally: I forwarded an urgent warning of common interest to colleagues and used the only channel available - no "discussion" about Mandriva at all. What - quote - "Mandriva mailing list" do you refer to?

You did not get the point:
1. Installing the latest updates from Mandriva threatens to make people lose substantial time 2. The Mandriva forum - the proper place to broadcast such a warning - is down 3. The large majority of people on this Mageia list use Mandriva and are concerned by this issue.

So ??? Do you really expect that I just watch smilingly how people whom I estimate and who devote a tremendous amount of time to build Mageia risk to waste their time?

I understand that doing things in an organised way is essential, but following principles blindly is just as bad has not considering principles at all!

Grrrr!!! Let us stop that discussion on this list - I hope that some time we will have the occasion have a glass of something good together to talk this out between us.

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