--On Friday, December 3, 2004 13:41:10 GMT +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"Ian" == Ian Eiloart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Ian> However, MacOSX and MacOSX Server have python Python 2.3 (#1, Ian> Sep 13 2003, 00:49:11), so requiring 2.4 could cause pain for Ian> anyone with a Mac installation of Mailman.

I'm not going to deprecate someone else's pain, but (1) Apple already
has a couple of "multi-version" applications standard (in particular,
GCC, see the gcc_select utility), and (2) I'm currently having no
problem with coexistence among the Apple-provided Python, two Fink
versions (2.2 and 2.3), and a DarwinPorts version (2.3).  I don't know
about Fink, but DarwinPorts has been providing a 2.4 package since the
alphas started (and maybe before).

Both Fink and DarwinPorts have their issues, but so far Python isn't
one of them.  (Actually, only ghc and the X distributions have given
me any trouble at all in DarwinPorts, and my issues with Fink mostly
are of the form "too many applications that don't need to be linked to
GNOME are linked to GNOME".)

So it may not be all that difficult for admins of Apple boxes to work
around this.

Yes, of course it isn't a show stopper. Of course there are ways around the problem. However, the OP asked if requiring 2.4 would cause problems for anyone. The answer is yes: for users of MacOSX, and some other platforms apparently, the requirement would create extra work, and therefore inhibit some people from upgrading.


For each of those platforms, no doubt, there are workarounds. However, its not enough just to do the workaround. I have to be sure that some Apple update is not going to undo the workaround. I have to document the workaround, and educate my colleagues to understand it. I have to be sure that *I'm* going to remember what I did in six months time.

Yes, that's all doable, and I probably would do it. For some people though, it will be a show stopper. For others it will delay their implementation. For these reasons, it is necessary to be cautious about upping the install requirements.


-- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS

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