On Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 02:39 PM, Terri Oda wrote: > What's the state for Centos? I think it was the last likely distro we > cared about with old python needs, but I'm not sure core supports it > at all any more. I am not sure about the state of CentOS, but Core doesn't support Python 2 anymore. So, in theory, if you need to run Mailman 3, you need Python 3 anyway as the API isn't meant to be exposed outside of a single host. Also, I don't know about the state of containers support in distros, but with containers, there is always an option to run Python3 even if their distro doesn't support.
> > > On October 1, 2017 2:12:46 PM PDT, Abhilash Raj > <maxk...@asynchronous.in> wrote:>> Hi All, >> >> >> >> Mailman uses Django web framework for the web based frontends, >> Postorius >>>> - The Official UI, and Hyperkitty - The official Archiver. They >> are both >>>> Django "apps" which means that they can be plugged into any other >>>> existing Django "project" (aka Django "installation") to work >> alongside >>>> other apps that people might be running. >> >> >> >> Currently, both the Django apps we have are Python 2 only, we have >>>> talked about moving to Python 3 but we decided we want it to be >> >> bilingual (support both 2 & 3). The reason we decided that was >> because >>>> if people would want to embed Postorius & Hyperkitty in their >> >> installations, they need to be able to run it under whatever python >>>> versions they are using. >> >> >> >> I want to revisit this assumption for being bilingual. >> Currently, there >>>> is no supported version of Django which doesn't support Python 3. >>>> Starting from v2.0, set to release in December 2017, Django is >> going to >>>> drop Python2 support. Now, that doesn't mean no one can run >> Django under >>>> Python2, 1.11 (LTS version) supports Python2 and will be supported >>>> probably till Python 2 is supported (April 2020 according to [1]). >>>> >> >> I believe that our (limited) development efforts would be best >> utilized >>>> if we just drop the support for Python 2 in Postorius & Hyperkitty >>>> instead of trying to be bilingual. Any day one of our >> dependencies may >>>> decide to do the same, and we would have to then use Python 3 anyway. >>>> Also, dropping Python 2 support doesn't seem like a lot of pain for >>>> anyone, you just need another instance of Django running, >> which is not >>>> *that* hard using uwsgi (in Emperor mode). I believe most of our >>>> dependencies should support Python 3, or should have a good enough >>>> replacement if it doesn't. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> >> [1]: https://www.djangoproject.com/download/ >> -- Abhilash Raj maxk...@asynchronous.in _______________________________________________ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
