On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, at 4:37 PM, brian_carpen...@emwd.com wrote:
> Hello everyone.
> 
> I have been a long time supporter of Mailman 2 and now 3. Most of my 
> experience with Mailman has been as a service provider that offers 
> managed mailman hosting both for version 2 and 3. I do have the benefit 
> of a decade+ of insight into the use of Mailman from a list admin, 
> moderator, and member point of view simply via my support ticket system 
> that my Mailman clients have access to.
> 
> I want to say that I appreciate all of the hard work that has been put 
> into bringing Mailman 3 to life. I also appreciate the forward thinking 
> that shows itself in the including of a REST api with Mailman 3 and the 
> use of and support of databases such as postgreSQL and MySQL.
> 
> I have been using Mailman 3 for over a year now in a 
> commercial/production environment and have installed it on several 
> servers using Docker and now from source. I received quite a bit of 
> feedback from users this past year and also lost about 20% of my 
> Mailman 3 users to other competing list/forum applications. The 
> feedback I received was almost entirely due to shortcomings in the user 
> interface.
> 
> After much thought, I have decided to break away from the use of 
> Postorius/Hyperkitty. Tomorrow a PHP developer will begin work on brand 
> new admin interface on my behalf. Here are my goals:
> 
> 1. Modernize the admin interface to meet modern design and interface 
> standards.
> 
> 2. To provide an easy installation approach to the setup and 
> portability of the admin interface.
> 
> 3. To reveal everything that Mailman core has via the new admin 
> interface and perhaps to bring in additional features such as the 
> ability to migrate a Mailman 2 list into a Mailman 3 list from a 
> browser interface.
> 
> 4. To bring in the use of stats that a list admin would like to see 
> such as overall number of list members, which list is generating the 
> most bounces, subscription/unsubscription rates, etc.
> 
> 5. To provide a list creation wizard for list admins that will 
> automatically create a list that has preset settings in place based 
> upon the input during the list creation wizard. 
> 
> I am sure there are many hurdles to overcome in the process. When the 
> inevitable questions arises that pertain anything to the Mailman side 
> of this project, I hope I can count on this list for assistance. I am 
> also interested in seeing if I can recruit some of you to test out the 
> new admin interface for usability testing when I reach that stage. I am 
> interested to find out if some of you that have enough experience in 
> PHP to help contribute to this project. Bootstrap 4 and User Interface 
> design skills would also be appreciated.
> 
> The name of the new admin interface: Affinity
> 
> Wish me well with this new project and let me know on or off list of 
> anything that you would like to see change, removed, implemented into a 
> new admin interface.
> 

All the best! I really like the idea of having more than one option for
users to choose from in terms of UI. It would truly make the Mailman Core's
API efforts justified :)

I've been quite out-of-sync with opensource work in past few months and my
responses are often delayed. Do add me to To:, Cc: if it is something urgent
that you'd like me response on though.

Finally, I do want to mention that the REST API is extensible. So, if you 
need changes/additional details from the Core, we should be able to flush
out the design and work on that.

> Brian
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-- 
  thanks,
  Abhilash Raj (maxking)
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