It is disturbing that they don't keep up, but they're in Austria (or maybe 
Switzerland).  People are conservative there, because they have elaborate 
acceptance criteria.  

I once had a customer go live with a national regulated server running on a 
beta version of Java Server Pages, and leave that up for years, just because 
they didn't want to go through the upgrade process.

I've suggested that my provider read this list -- maybe something good will 
come out of it.

Ch.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Zwanzig <c...@tuunq.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, 5 July 2023 23:01
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on 
private lists

On 7/5/2023 12:54 PM, Charles Buckley wrote:
> My server is one of those shared servers, to which I do not have shell 
> access. Mailman would have to be reinstalled by the sysadmins -- I 
> can't do it. I have involved them, but they're still coming up to 
> speed.

That in itself is a trifle worrying-- a provider that hasn't been keeping their 
software even reasonably up-to-date.

2.1.39 was released 13-Dec-2021
2.1.16 was released 16-Oct-2013
(so 2.1.15 was before that, so call it ten years old)

IMNSHO, there's no excuse for being that far out of date.

Later,

z!
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