CC'ed to -developers to note that pipermail's threading seems either broken/fragile, and to note that the mbox archives for the -users list are borked (early apparency is that Pipermail is excessively restrictive on In-Reply-To header field formats).
On Mon, 05 Nov 2001 08:18:55 +0100 Lucas Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 02 November 2001 09:53, J C Lawrence wrote: >> On Fri, 02 Nov 2001 10:42:33 +0100 >> exmh. Quoting the headers from this very message: >> >> In-Reply-To: Message from Lucas Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> of >> "Fri, 02 Nov 2001 10:42:33 +0100." >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > There are gone when the message arrives at my workstation (at > least, kmail 'show all headers' does not reveal them). Neither in > the copy received from your not the one sent by the list. Which is then a problem with your mail setup, and is not specific to either the mail I send, or the mailman lists at Python.Org. Quoting the full headers from another message I sent to this forum: --<cut>>-- X-envelope-from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 06 12:46:03 2001 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: claw@localhost Delivery-date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 12:46:03 -0800 Received: from localhost [127.0.0.1] by dingo.home.kanga.nu with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 161D6h-0001ns-00; Tue, 06 Nov 2001 12:46:03 -0800 Delivered-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from kanga.nu [157.22.12.214] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.3) for claw@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 06 Nov 2001 12:46:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.python.org (mail.python.org [63.102.49.29]) by bush.kanga.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCEE12E27 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:44:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.python.org) by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 3.21 #1) id 161D30-0000fp-00; Tue, 06 Nov 2001 15:42:14 -0500 Received: from [63.203.253.2] (helo=localhost) by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 3.21 #1) id 161D2h-0000bB-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 06 Nov 2001 15:41:55 -0500 Received: from 2wire.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4338E129A; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:41:25 -0800 (PST) In-reply-to: Message from "Leonard Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> of "Tue, 06 Nov 2001 13:27:57 EST." <3BE7E55D.13726.2154F0A@localhost> References: <3BE7E55D.13726.2154F0A@localhost> X-message-flag: Are you sure that Microsoft Outlook is good enough for you to use? X-accepted-file-formats: text/plain preferred, Postscript and PDF accepted - *NO* Micosoft Office files please. X-face: ?<YUs-cNP1\Oc-H>^_yw@fA`CEX&}--=*&XqXbF-oePvxaT4(kyt\nwM9]{]N!>b^K}-Mb9 YH%saz^>nq5usBlD"s{(.h'_w|U^3ldUq7wVZz$`u>MB(-4$f\a6Eu8.e=Pf\ X-image-url: http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/kanga.face.tiff X-url: http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-beenthere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-mailman-version: 2.0.6 (101270) Precedence: bulk List-help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=help> List-post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe> List-id: Mailman mailing list management users <mailman-users.python.org> List-unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe> List-archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] resolving qfiles stuck in the queue From: J C Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 12:41:25 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --<cut>>-- Unfortunately the mbox files for the archives at python.org are borked, but checking other posts of mine there universally show correct in-Reply-To: and References: headers. eg: --<cut>>-- >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 1 18:00:37 2001 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J C Lawrence) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:00:37 -0800 Subject: [Mailman-Users] threaded view on archive does not work In-Reply-To: Message from Lucas Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> of "Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:30:22 +0100." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --<cut>>-- > Do you have any any why your messages do not hread in the mailman > user maillist archive? No. > In other words, could it be that the mail > system at python.org does not see those headers too? No. This would appear to be another Pipermail bug. As you can see here: http://www.kanga.nu/archives/MUD-Dev-L/2001Q4/thread.php#00434 my messages thread properly under MHonArc (a tool I know handles thread headers properly). -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users