On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, J C Lawrence wrote: > > I believe all of the discussion-list type servers (Mailman, listserv, > > Mercury, Majordomo, et al) use the same mechanism, so the ISPs that > > are using this technique for stopping spam will have to address > > legitimate list servers. > > Sadly, nope. > > SMTP is an unreliable transport. ISPs have no especial obligation to > deliver received mail to their addressed users (no matter that those > users and we may feel differently).
This is not accurate. SMTP is a reliable transport. It either deliveres the message or deliveres an NDR. >From RFC2821: When the receiver-SMTP accepts a piece of mail (by sending a "250 OK" message in response to DATA), it is accepting responsibility for delivering or relaying the message. It must take this responsibility seriously. It MUST NOT lose the message for frivolous reasons, such as because the host later crashes or because of a predictable resource shortage. If there is a delivery failure after acceptance of a message, the receiver-SMTP MUST formulate and mail a notification message. MTAs which don't accept this level of reliability aren't SMTP transports. Ones which bit bucket mail which has too many recipients are also not SMTP compliant. alex ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/