On Friday, November 14, 2003, at 04:00 pm, Thomas C. Fischer wrote:


Hi Richard,

thanks for your answer! I appreciate talking to someone who apparently
knows what he is talking about! ;-)

Forgive me when I laugh... This FAQ entry is quoted every single time
someone asks about URLs in mailman. And I have never met anybody whose
problem got solved through reading it...

Well, you and anybody else who has the time and energy to do better is welcome to rewrite that FAQ or any another. It is Open Software and anybody can contribute ....

Didn't want to offend anybody - forgive me if this sounded slightly sarcastic. I wish I could rewrite the FAQ - it's just that I simply haven't understood how these parameters are working together...

Have your read the output from $prefix/bin/newlist --help ? It says in
part:

<quote>
You can specify the domain to create your new list in by spelling the
listname
like so:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

where `www.mydom.ain' should be the base hostname for the URL to this
virtual
hosts's lists. E.g. with is setting people will view the general list
overviews at http://www.mydom.ain/mailman/listinfo. Also, www.mydom.ain
should be a key in the VIRTUAL_HOSTS mapping in mm_cfg.py/Defaults.py.
It
will be looked up to give the email hostname. If this can't be found,
then
www.mydom.ain will be used for both the web interface and the email
interface.
</quote>

Yup! And the important part seems to be the "key in the VIRTUAL_HOSTS
mapping"-thingy... What mailman does in my case is that it uses
www.mydom.ain for both the web interface and the email interface, although
I use the settings described below...


Look here:

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mailhost.name'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'my.webhost.name'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

Now tell my why this doesn't do the trick?! The mail for the list admin
still has the link


https://mailhost.name/mailman/admin/test

But instead of mailhost.name it should have my.webhost.name, don't you
reckon?

Only if the list was created after the assignments you cite above were
extant when the list was created. Are you saying that if you now create
another test list, you get the wrong results?

Yes, that's what I am saying. With the above settings I do a bin/newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

But you should be doing:


bin/newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Which is what the command usage is trying to tell you to do. Yes, it may be counter-intuitive but the --help output is quite clear if you actually read it carefully.


And then it will use the mailhost.name in the webhost-corner!


It works fine as long as I simply say
bin/newlist test - without the mailhost.name thing...

But after all there are more virtual hosts on my machine...

If you supply the web host domain in the newlist parameter, the code that does the setup of the new list's web_page_url and mail host_name attributes is as follows:


    host_name = None
    web_page_url = None
    if '@' in listname:
        listname, domain = listname.split('@', 1)
        host_name = mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOSTS.get(domain, domain)
        web_page_url = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN % domain

It just does a simple dictionary lookup of the virtual hosts you have defined for your site. If the lookup fails then the domain on the command parameter is used for both mail and web hosts. There is not a whole lot to go wrong with this code.


Once again: Thanks for your ongoing help.


Regards,
Tom



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