At 6:52 AM +0000 2004/01/22, Richard Barrett wrote:
If this list's membership forged a consensus behind a manageable and relatively minor proposal to change Mailman, which did not compromise its adherence to RFCs, then maybe there is a way forward to suit most people.
This still doesn't fix the entire rest of the Internet, or all the other multitudes of Mailman installations.
And I did not say it would. Nor is it necessary to so do. Outlook is not wrong and nor is Mailman. Its just that some users are confused by what they see and some mailing list admins are equally confused about why their users are confused.
What I was trying to suggest was that:
1. given that a very popular MUA displays a field on its graphical interface which is the conflation of the values of the Sender: and From: headers in messages it is processing.
2. because of an arbitrary choice by Mailman's developer's, aliases of the form listname-bounces are used in the SMTP reverse path and in the Sender: header of outgoing messages from the list management software.
3. because naive users, unschooled in the ways of RFCs and mail handling, are confused when presented by Outlook with the contents of the Sender: header generated by Mailman.
it might ameliorate the users confusion by adopting a different and less confusing alias to be used in the message's Sender: header and reverse path.
There is also the alternative of applying the hack I posted here on 2003/02/07:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq02.003.htp
What the hell. I do not really care about the problem per se - my subscribers are not complaining - nor can I be bothered any more to argue the toss with you guys about it.
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