At 6:41 PM -0400 2004/06/01, Speedy Gonzalis wrote:

 As you probably know, AOL (in it's infinite wisdom) has given it's users
 the ability to black list anyone they want.

Yup.

                                              Unfortunately, when they do
 and a black listed individual posts to a list that is set for replies to
 go to the list, the resulting bounce (example below) is unrecognized by
 Mailman.

Sadly, this is true. AOL wrote their own custom MTA (against my vehement objections), and they generate their own bounces in their own format. There's not much we can do about that except deal with it.


 What I'm hoping for is that someone has written, or I can (with
 assistance) write something that will recognize these rejects and track
 them against the offending AOL member just as any other hard bounce.

I don't think that's going to be very likely. The problem is the lack of information provided in the bounce. You can tell that you've got a bounce, but that's about it. If you go to full personalization with VERP, you've got a better shot of figuring out which user actually resulted in the bounce and then unsubscribing them (or whatever), but that's about the best you can hope for.


That is, unless you can show us additional information that you usually see in your bounces that could be put to use?


If you need further help, Carl Hutzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is the guy to talk to.


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