-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 18, 2006, at 12:26 PM, JC Dill wrote:
> If Barry wants to let the list be gatewayed to gmane and usenet > over our objections, he is certainly entitled to do that. It will > also mean that he will need new people to help manage the various > lists that Brad and I help manage because I'm with Brad on this - > gateway to gmane without even asking my opinion and I'm no longer > interested in helping manage the list. We (the people on mailman- > users-owner who do the lion's share of the work in managing the > lists) deserve to be consulted and have our opinions heard on this > matter. JC (and Brad) are absolutely right, and I hereby publicly apologize for usurping their roles. I highly value both their contributions as list managers, and since both are opposed to gatewaying to Gmane under the current conditions, I retract my earlier endorsement. I think that if Gmane were to address the issues that Brad and JC have raised about their operations, then it would be worth reconsidering. I'll leave the final decision up to them and won't stick my nose in unless specifically asked to (and even then, not until the current bleeding stops :). I don't expect them to lobby Gmane to address their complaints, but perhaps those of you who would like to see Gmane gateways for the Mailman lists can forward those concerns on to Lars and company. On a personal note, I've re-enabled my subscription to mailman-users after a very long hiatus. I still don't expect to be able to keep up with the traffic, so I'll mostly lurk unless there's some specific issue that I think needs a definitive pronouncement. And next time, I'll try harder not to be a dumbass. ;) - -Barry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBRQ7eoXEjvBPtnXfVAQI1gAP+L6Gv2uDAlT8ht83UqXUTaNo8JwW5A2uo ExEpm2qNNRDCdmiHd7S0nMAdLCByAkjaErpWL0kmQFfPqJB5h/XvUmgQvStXfMIb lry5BCANTa0SBE6b+xVHpBm6LqfeD93jFP5sm+NndWyx+/NLAsdwIffozYalzt/e q0UBXvYz3bA= =cjOq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp