Jon Pauli wrote: > >I have a couple of mailing lists and every time anyone- member or >non-member posts, everything works fine but the list owner gets > >1)An uncaught bounce notification containing an empty attachment >called ForwardedMessage.eml. Thunderbird is the MUA so I'm guessing it >is responsible for determining how to interpret the attachment, but >even if I save it as a text file it is a 2 byte long file with no >visible characters in it...I didn't take a hex editor to it. I >understand why listowner gets these, I'm just not sure how it can work >with a 2 byte file and no headers ;)
This is the message/rfc822 part attached to the bounce notification. T'bird will call it ForwardedMessage.eml if it can't find a Subject: in it which in this case, it can't because the message has no headers and no body. I think this represents a null message sent to the listnam-bounces address, being detected as 'unrecognized' (not surprising) and forwarded to the owner. >2. An email where no subject and no sender appear in the MUA. The >headers are as follows: > >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Return-Path: < >[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Received: from [192.168.10.22] (softdnserr [127.0.0.1]) >by mail.mydomain.com with esmtp; Thu, 31 May 2007 09:57:36 -0500id >00A9A0CA.465EE260.00010B2E >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:57:36 -0500 >To: undisclosed-recipients: ; This appears to be the result of a null message delivered to the listname-owner address with a few headers added by Mailman and the outgoing MTA. >The interesting things I noticed are: > >1. The Received: header line is wrong. The mail server has a DNS >server running on it as well as the MTA. its IP is 192.168.11.22 NOT >10.22 There is no 192.168.10.22 on my network. This happens only for >mailman emails. I don't recall having to set any IPs when I set up >mailman. What is wrong here? Your outgoing MTA thinks its 'localhost' is 192.168.10.22. Check the MTA configuration for any occurrence of 192.168.10.22. >2. The end of the Message-ID: line contains only mydomain, not say, >mydomain.com like non-mailman emails. I think your MTA made up this message-id, so again, look to your MTA. >3. There is no Sender showing up in the MUA but the Sender: header is >present. It looks like Thunderbird maybe uses the From: header instead >of the Sender header despite naming the column where this would appear >"Sender". This is really a T'bird question, but yes, what T'bird labels as 'sender' in the folder contents pane comes from the From: header. It seems what is happening is for every incoming message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], a null (empty) message is also delivered to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] When you say "every time anyone- member or non-member posts", do non-member posts get held, rejected or discarded? If so, I think that says these extra null messages are created at incoming message time, probably from some mis-configuration of aliases or routers/transports in the incoming MTA. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp